Fellow freeswitchers, I am sending this email out to let you all know that I am setting up a group buy for the Huawei E169. It should be compatable with mod_gsmopen, and that will be tested before we go and do a buy. The reason why there is interest in this particular model is the fact that it does have an external antenna jack. Otherwise they are fairly close to the E1550. If you are interested, make sure you do your research to make sure this single will work for you. No refunds. Send an email to gsmdongle@endigotech.com letting me know how many you want and the best way to get ahold of you. Deadline is May 30th to get your requests in. There will be no refunds. There will be no markup on price. Buyers are responsible for shipping. Price range should be $25-35. US/Canada residents only. Must be 18 years or older. Payment via PayPal only. Notice will be sent out a few days after May 30th to confirm we have enough interested and how much each single will be. At that time you will need to send a payment to the PayPal address. Payments will be in two stages, the first will be for the product itself, the second will be for the shipping to your address. There needs to be a minimum of 20 dongles ordered before I can go ahead and buy. Payments need to be collected prior to me going ahead and buying. If you have any questions, email me off list. -BDF
Hi, When looking at models of 3G dongles look carefully at whether they support the features you need. This basically comes down to supporting the voice features, and supporting the bands you need in your area. Most recent dongles with a Qualcomm chip set (which is most of them) support the voice features needed to work with FS. However, many SIM locked ones have the feature blocked. Unlocked ones should be OK. Most dongles now support quad band 2G operation, which covers most of the frequencies ever used for 2G GSM. However, most dongles only support one 3G band. Some support 2 bands. There are, however, several bands used for 3G around the planet. If the dongle you choose doesn't support your local 3G bands, you will only be able to use it for 2G communication. That might be OK. It might not. It depends on your local service offerings. Just beware. Steve On 05/13/2012 09:49 AM, Brian Foster wrote:
Fellow freeswitchers,
I am sending this email out to let you all know that I am setting up a group buy for the Huawei E169. It should be compatable with mod_gsmopen, and that will be tested before we go and do a buy. The reason why there is interest in this particular model is the fact that it does have an external antenna jack. Otherwise they are fairly close to the E1550.
If you are interested, make sure you do your research to make sure this single will work for you. No refunds. Send an email to gsmdongle@endigotech.com <mailto:gsmdongle@endigotech.com> letting me know how many you want and the best way to get ahold of you. Deadline is May 30th to get your requests in.
There will be no refunds. There will be no markup on price. Buyers are responsible for shipping. Price range should be $25-35. US/Canada residents only. Must be 18 years or older. Payment via PayPal only. Notice will be sent out a few days after May 30th to confirm we have enough interested and how much each single will be. At that time you will need to send a payment to the PayPal address. Payments will be in two stages, the first will be for the product itself, the second will be for the shipping to your address.
There needs to be a minimum of 20 dongles ordered before I can go ahead and buy. Payments need to be collected prior to me going ahead and buying.
If you have any questions, email me off list.
-BDF
The Huawei E169 is confirmed to work with mod_gsmopen. Special thanks to Marcus Brown (mzb- on #freedoh) for helping me figure all of this stuff out and for donating a E169, a SIM card, and a virtual machine to run tests. Steve, understood. As far as I can tell the bands that the E169 supports SHOULD cover most of the US carriers that support GSM. Like I said in my last email, it is up to you guys to make sure that it will work in your situation. If it doesn't I'd sell it on ebay, I don't think you'll have a problem getting rid of it. From: http://3g-modem.wetpaint.com/page/Huawei+E169+(E169G,+E169V,+K3520) specifications Huawei E169 manufacturer:Huaweimodel:E169interface:USB 2.0 (A plug)GSM frequency bands:850, 900, 1800, 1900UMTS frequency bands:900, 2100HSDPA:7,2 MBit/sHSUPA:-EDGE:236,8 KBit/sGPRS:57,6 KBit//sCSD:?connector for ext. antenna:+ (on some versions covered by housing)connector type:SMK CRS5001internal antenna diversity:+voice telephony:+NAND-flashmemory:+microSD-drive:+ (up to 8GB)rebranded versions:Vodafone K3520 Vodafone E169VAlso: http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/huawei-e169-modem.html <http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/huawei-e169-modem.html>-BDF On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org> wrote:
Hi,
When looking at models of 3G dongles look carefully at whether they support the features you need. This basically comes down to supporting the voice features, and supporting the bands you need in your area.
Most recent dongles with a Qualcomm chip set (which is most of them) support the voice features needed to work with FS. However, many SIM locked ones have the feature blocked. Unlocked ones should be OK.
Most dongles now support quad band 2G operation, which covers most of the frequencies ever used for 2G GSM. However, most dongles only support one 3G band. Some support 2 bands. There are, however, several bands used for 3G around the planet. If the dongle you choose doesn't support your local 3G bands, you will only be able to use it for 2G communication. That might be OK. It might not. It depends on your local service offerings. Just beware.
Steve
On 05/13/2012 09:49 AM, Brian Foster wrote:
Fellow freeswitchers,
I am sending this email out to let you all know that I am setting up a group buy for the Huawei E169. It should be compatable with mod_gsmopen, and that will be tested before we go and do a buy. The reason why there is interest in this particular model is the fact that it does have an external antenna jack. Otherwise they are fairly close to the E1550.
If you are interested, make sure you do your research to make sure this single will work for you. No refunds. Send an email to gsmdongle@endigotech.com <mailto:gsmdongle@endigotech.com> letting me know how many you want and the best way to get ahold of you. Deadline is May 30th to get your requests in.
There will be no refunds. There will be no markup on price. Buyers are responsible for shipping. Price range should be $25-35. US/Canada residents only. Must be 18 years or older. Payment via PayPal only. Notice will be sent out a few days after May 30th to confirm we have enough interested and how much each single will be. At that time you will need to send a payment to the PayPal address. Payments will be in two stages, the first will be for the product itself, the second will be for the shipping to your address.
There needs to be a minimum of 20 dongles ordered before I can go ahead and buy. Payments need to be collected prior to me going ahead and buying.
If you have any questions, email me off list.
-BDF
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One thing that you do want to keep in mind is that ATT/TMobile/etc might support a certain band on their network as a whole but might not have it in your area. If there is a better alternative dongle out there that would fit USA better, I'm all ears. Let me know and we'll look into it. Also a reminder, this isn't a sale. There will be no markup in any of this, and my company isn't involved whatsoever. I could just buy 20 or so of them and sell them at a markup, but I'm not really into that side of things. So, just because I'm emailing from a company domain DOES NOT mean that my company is involved. </rant> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Brian Foster <bdfoster@endigotech.com>wrote:
The Huawei E169 is confirmed to work with mod_gsmopen. Special thanks to Marcus Brown (mzb- on #freedoh) for helping me figure all of this stuff out and for donating a E169, a SIM card, and a virtual machine to run tests.
Steve, understood. As far as I can tell the bands that the E169 supports SHOULD cover most of the US carriers that support GSM. Like I said in my last email, it is up to you guys to make sure that it will work in your situation. If it doesn't I'd sell it on ebay, I don't think you'll have a problem getting rid of it.
From: http://3g-modem.wetpaint.com/page/Huawei+E169+(E169G,+E169V,+K3520)
specifications
Huawei E169
manufacturer: Huawei model: E169 interface: USB 2.0 (A plug) GSM frequency bands: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 UMTS frequency bands: 900, 2100HSDPA:7,2 MBit/sHSUPA:-EDGE:236,8 KBit/sGPRS:57,6 KBit//sCSD:?connector for ext. antenna:+ (on some versions covered by housing)connector type:SMK CRS5001internal antenna diversity:+voice telephony:+NAND-flashmemory:+microSD-drive:+ (up to 8GB)rebranded versions:Vodafone K3520 Vodafone E169VAlso: http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/huawei-e169-modem.html
<http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/huawei-e169-modem.html>-BDF
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org>wrote:
Hi,
When looking at models of 3G dongles look carefully at whether they support the features you need. This basically comes down to supporting the voice features, and supporting the bands you need in your area.
Most recent dongles with a Qualcomm chip set (which is most of them) support the voice features needed to work with FS. However, many SIM locked ones have the feature blocked. Unlocked ones should be OK.
Most dongles now support quad band 2G operation, which covers most of the frequencies ever used for 2G GSM. However, most dongles only support one 3G band. Some support 2 bands. There are, however, several bands used for 3G around the planet. If the dongle you choose doesn't support your local 3G bands, you will only be able to use it for 2G communication. That might be OK. It might not. It depends on your local service offerings. Just beware.
Steve
On 05/13/2012 09:49 AM, Brian Foster wrote:
Fellow freeswitchers,
I am sending this email out to let you all know that I am setting up a group buy for the Huawei E169. It should be compatable with mod_gsmopen, and that will be tested before we go and do a buy. The reason why there is interest in this particular model is the fact that it does have an external antenna jack. Otherwise they are fairly close to the E1550.
If you are interested, make sure you do your research to make sure this single will work for you. No refunds. Send an email to gsmdongle@endigotech.com <mailto:gsmdongle@endigotech.com> letting me know how many you want and the best way to get ahold of you. Deadline is May 30th to get your requests in.
There will be no refunds. There will be no markup on price. Buyers are responsible for shipping. Price range should be $25-35. US/Canada residents only. Must be 18 years or older. Payment via PayPal only. Notice will be sent out a few days after May 30th to confirm we have enough interested and how much each single will be. At that time you will need to send a payment to the PayPal address. Payments will be in two stages, the first will be for the product itself, the second will be for the shipping to your address.
There needs to be a minimum of 20 dongles ordered before I can go ahead and buy. Payments need to be collected prior to me going ahead and buying.
If you have any questions, email me off list.
-BDF
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Hi Brian, My understanding (as an outsider) is the US mostly uses 1700MHz and 1900MHz for UMTS. The E169 doesn't support either of those bands. I don't think 2100MHz is used at all in the US. I understand 900MHz support is pretty limited. Maybe none of this matters much if 2G support is available everywhere. However, it looks like there should be a better choice for people in the US. Hua Wei make a huge number of models to suit all tastes. Regards, Steve On 05/13/2012 02:39 PM, Brian Foster wrote:
The Huawei E169 is confirmed to work with mod_gsmopen. Special thanks to Marcus Brown (mzb- on #freedoh) for helping me figure all of this stuff out and for donating a E169, a SIM card, and a virtual machine to run tests.
Steve, understood. As far as I can tell the bands that the E169 supports SHOULD cover most of the US carriers that support GSM. Like I said in my last email, it is up to you guys to make sure that it will work in your situation. If it doesn't I'd sell it on ebay, I don't think you'll have a problem getting rid of it.
From: http://3g-modem.wetpaint.com/page/Huawei+E169+(E169G,+E169V,+K3520) <http://3g-modem.wetpaint.com/page/Huawei+E169+%28E169G,+E169V,+K3520%29>
specifications
Huawei E169
manufacturer: Huawei model: E169 interface: USB 2.0 (A plug) GSM frequency bands: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 UMTS frequency bands: 900, 2100 HSDPA: 7,2 MBit/s HSUPA: - EDGE: 236,8 KBit/s GPRS: 57,6 KBit//s CSD: ? connector for ext. antenna: + (on some versions covered by housing) connector type: SMK CRS5001 internal antenna diversity: + voice telephony: + NAND-flashmemory: + microSD-drive: + (up to 8GB) rebranded versions: Vodafone K3520 Vodafone E169V
Also: http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/huawei-e169-modem.html
-BDF
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org <mailto:steveu@coppice.org>> wrote:
Hi,
When looking at models of 3G dongles look carefully at whether they support the features you need. This basically comes down to supporting the voice features, and supporting the bands you need in your area.
Most recent dongles with a Qualcomm chip set (which is most of them) support the voice features needed to work with FS. However, many SIM locked ones have the feature blocked. Unlocked ones should be OK.
Most dongles now support quad band 2G operation, which covers most of the frequencies ever used for 2G GSM. However, most dongles only support one 3G band. Some support 2 bands. There are, however, several bands used for 3G around the planet. If the dongle you choose doesn't support your local 3G bands, you will only be able to use it for 2G communication. That might be OK. It might not. It depends on your local service offerings. Just beware.
Steve
On 05/13/2012 09:49 AM, Brian Foster wrote: > > Fellow freeswitchers, > > I am sending this email out to let you all know that I am setting up a > group buy for the Huawei E169. It should be compatable with > mod_gsmopen, and that will be tested before we go and do a buy. The > reason why there is interest in this particular model is the fact that > it does have an external antenna jack. Otherwise they are fairly close > to the E1550. > > If you are interested, make sure you do your research to make sure > this single will work for you. No refunds. Send an email to > gsmdongle@endigotech.com <mailto:gsmdongle@endigotech.com> <mailto:gsmdongle@endigotech.com <mailto:gsmdongle@endigotech.com>> letting me > know how many you want and the best way to get ahold of you. Deadline > is May 30th to get your requests in. > > There will be no refunds. There will be no markup on price. Buyers are > responsible for shipping. Price range should be $25-35. US/Canada > residents only. Must be 18 years or older. Payment via PayPal only. > Notice will be sent out a few days after May 30th to confirm we have > enough interested and how much each single will be. At that time you > will need to send a payment to the PayPal address. Payments will be in > two stages, the first will be for the product itself, the second will > be for the shipping to your address. > > There needs to be a minimum of 20 dongles ordered before I can go > ahead and buy. Payments need to be collected prior to me going ahead > and buying. > > If you have any questions, email me off list. > > -BDF > >
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Hi FreeSWITCHers thanks bdfoster for the initiative, the group buy would be a very good start. May I ask to be contacted in private, from who has access to one of those e169, so we can arrange the possibility for me to constantly checking development and documentation of mod_gsmopen with it? (eg. to have ssh access to a development machine with an e169 connected). Obviously, count on me for buying a couple of them, so I will not need remote access anymore. -giovanni On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org> wrote:
Hi Brian,
My understanding (as an outsider) is the US mostly uses 1700MHz and 1900MHz for UMTS. The E169 doesn't support either of those bands. I don't think 2100MHz is used at all in the US. I understand 900MHz support is pretty limited. Maybe none of this matters much if 2G support is available everywhere. However, it looks like there should be a better choice for people in the US. Hua Wei make a huge number of models to suit all tastes.
Regards, Steve
On 05/13/2012 02:39 PM, Brian Foster wrote:
The Huawei E169 is confirmed to work with mod_gsmopen. Special thanks to Marcus Brown (mzb- on #freedoh) for helping me figure all of this stuff out and for donating a E169, a SIM card, and a virtual machine to run tests.
Steve, understood. As far as I can tell the bands that the E169 supports SHOULD cover most of the US carriers that support GSM. Like I said in my last email, it is up to you guys to make sure that it will work in your situation. If it doesn't I'd sell it on ebay, I don't think you'll have a problem getting rid of it.
From: http://3g-modem.wetpaint.com/page/Huawei+E169+(E169G,+E169V,+K3520) <http://3g-modem.wetpaint.com/page/Huawei+E169+%28E169G,+E169V,+K3520%29>
specifications
Huawei E169
manufacturer: Huawei model: E169 interface: USB 2.0 (A plug) GSM frequency bands: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 UMTS frequency bands: 900, 2100 HSDPA: 7,2 MBit/s HSUPA: - EDGE: 236,8 KBit/s GPRS: 57,6 KBit//s CSD: ? connector for ext. antenna: + (on some versions covered by housing) connector type: SMK CRS5001 internal antenna diversity: + voice telephony: + NAND-flashmemory: + microSD-drive: + (up to 8GB) rebranded versions: Vodafone K3520 Vodafone E169V
Also: http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/huawei-e169-modem.html
-BDF
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org <mailto:steveu@coppice.org>> wrote:
Hi,
When looking at models of 3G dongles look carefully at whether they support the features you need. This basically comes down to supporting the voice features, and supporting the bands you need in your area.
Most recent dongles with a Qualcomm chip set (which is most of them) support the voice features needed to work with FS. However, many SIM locked ones have the feature blocked. Unlocked ones should be OK.
Most dongles now support quad band 2G operation, which covers most of the frequencies ever used for 2G GSM. However, most dongles only support one 3G band. Some support 2 bands. There are, however, several bands used for 3G around the planet. If the dongle you choose doesn't support your local 3G bands, you will only be able to use it for 2G communication. That might be OK. It might not. It depends on your local service offerings. Just beware.
Steve
On 05/13/2012 09:49 AM, Brian Foster wrote: > > Fellow freeswitchers, > > I am sending this email out to let you all know that I am setting up a > group buy for the Huawei E169. It should be compatable with > mod_gsmopen, and that will be tested before we go and do a buy. The > reason why there is interest in this particular model is the fact that > it does have an external antenna jack. Otherwise they are fairly close > to the E1550. > > If you are interested, make sure you do your research to make sure > this single will work for you. No refunds. Send an email to > gsmdongle@endigotech.com <mailto:gsmdongle@endigotech.com> <mailto:gsmdongle@endigotech.com <mailto:gsmdongle@endigotech.com>> letting me > know how many you want and the best way to get ahold of you. Deadline > is May 30th to get your requests in. > > There will be no refunds. There will be no markup on price. Buyers are > responsible for shipping. Price range should be $25-35. US/Canada > residents only. Must be 18 years or older. Payment via PayPal only. > Notice will be sent out a few days after May 30th to confirm we have > enough interested and how much each single will be. At that time you > will need to send a payment to the PayPal address. Payments will be in > two stages, the first will be for the product itself, the second will > be for the shipping to your address. > > There needs to be a minimum of 20 dongles ordered before I can go > ahead and buy. Payments need to be collected prior to me going ahead > and buying. > > If you have any questions, email me off list. > > -BDF > >
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Steve, Ill do some more research when I get home tonight. If anyone has a suggestion please contact me off list. -BDF On May 13, 2012 4:11 AM, "Steve Underwood" <steveu@coppice.org> wrote:
Hi Brian,
My understanding (as an outsider) is the US mostly uses 1700MHz and 1900MHz for UMTS. The E169 doesn't support either of those bands. I don't think 2100MHz is used at all in the US. I understand 900MHz support is pretty limited. Maybe none of this matters much if 2G support is available everywhere. However, it looks like there should be a better choice for people in the US. Hua Wei make a huge number of models to suit all tastes.
Regards, Steve
On 05/13/2012 02:39 PM, Brian Foster wrote:
The Huawei E169 is confirmed to work with mod_gsmopen. Special thanks to Marcus Brown (mzb- on #freedoh) for helping me figure all of this stuff out and for donating a E169, a SIM card, and a virtual machine to run tests.
Steve, understood. As far as I can tell the bands that the E169 supports SHOULD cover most of the US carriers that support GSM. Like I said in my last email, it is up to you guys to make sure that it will work in your situation. If it doesn't I'd sell it on ebay, I don't think you'll have a problem getting rid of it.
From: http://3g-modem.wetpaint.com/page/Huawei+E169+(E169G,+E169V,+K3520) <http://3g-modem.wetpaint.com/page/Huawei+E169+%28E169G,+E169V,+K3520%29
specifications
Huawei E169
manufacturer: Huawei model: E169 interface: USB 2.0 (A plug) GSM frequency bands: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 UMTS frequency bands: 900, 2100 HSDPA: 7,2 MBit/s HSUPA: - EDGE: 236,8 KBit/s GPRS: 57,6 KBit//s CSD: ? connector for ext. antenna: + (on some versions covered by housing) connector type: SMK CRS5001 internal antenna diversity: + voice telephony: + NAND-flashmemory: + microSD-drive: + (up to 8GB) rebranded versions: Vodafone K3520 Vodafone E169V
Also: http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/huawei-e169-modem.html
-BDF
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org <mailto:steveu@coppice.org>> wrote:
Hi,
When looking at models of 3G dongles look carefully at whether they support the features you need. This basically comes down to supporting the voice features, and supporting the bands you need in your area.
Most recent dongles with a Qualcomm chip set (which is most of them) support the voice features needed to work with FS. However, many SIM locked ones have the feature blocked. Unlocked ones should be OK.
Most dongles now support quad band 2G operation, which covers most of the frequencies ever used for 2G GSM. However, most dongles only support one 3G band. Some support 2 bands. There are, however, several bands used for 3G around the planet. If the dongle you choose doesn't support your local 3G bands, you will only be able to use it for 2G communication. That might be OK. It might not. It depends on your local service offerings. Just beware.
Steve
On 05/13/2012 09:49 AM, Brian Foster wrote: > > Fellow freeswitchers, > > I am sending this email out to let you all know that I am setting up a > group buy for the Huawei E169. It should be compatable with > mod_gsmopen, and that will be tested before we go and do a buy. The > reason why there is interest in this particular model is the fact that > it does have an external antenna jack. Otherwise they are fairly close > to the E1550. > > If you are interested, make sure you do your research to make sure > this single will work for you. No refunds. Send an email to > gsmdongle@endigotech.com <mailto:gsmdongle@endigotech.com> <mailto:gsmdongle@endigotech.com <mailto:gsmdongle@endigotech.com>> letting me > know how many you want and the best way to get ahold of you. Deadline > is May 30th to get your requests in. > > There will be no refunds. There will be no markup on price. Buyers are > responsible for shipping. Price range should be $25-35. US/Canada > residents only. Must be 18 years or older. Payment via PayPal only. > Notice will be sent out a few days after May 30th to confirm we have > enough interested and how much each single will be. At that time you > will need to send a payment to the PayPal address. Payments will be in > two stages, the first will be for the product itself, the second will > be for the shipping to your address. > > There needs to be a minimum of 20 dongles ordered before I can go > ahead and buy. Payments need to be collected prior to me going ahead > and buying. > > If you have any questions, email me off list. > > -BDF > >
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies Was looking for a more definitive list for ATT and TMO bands. That should be the majority of the GSM in the US on a national level. Many MNVOs etc but underlying network tends to be ATT or TMO. Now the next question would be which MNVO gives cheap enough SIM only accounts to play with this with FreeSWITCH? -- W
From what I've known, the 850/1900 bands are primarily used for UMTS up here in North America.
Rogers, Telus and Bell use those UMTS frequencies up here in Canada. However, the UMTS AWS (1700) band that Steve was talking about, it's mainly used by Wind and Mobilicity in Canada. From my limited knowledge of how the mobile carriers use in the USA, T-Mobile uses the UMTS AWS band for their 3G service while AT&T uses the 850/1900 UMTS bands. Hope this clears up any confusion for people who are in North America and are willing to try these dongles out with FS. On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:23 AM, William Suffill <william.suffill@gmail.com> wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies
Was looking for a more definitive list for ATT and TMO bands. That should be the majority of the GSM in the US on a national level. Many MNVOs etc but underlying network tends to be ATT or TMO.
Now the next question would be which MNVO gives cheap enough SIM only accounts to play with this with FreeSWITCH?
-- W
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An authoritative source of mine at AT&T Mobility said: HSDPA UMTS (850, 1900MHz) . GSM GPRS EDGE (850 , 1900MHz) are supported, which looks like his edited version of the E169 data sheet that I e-mailed to him. Bote From: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Brian Foster Sent: Sunday, 13 May, 2012 02:39 To: FreeSWITCH Users Help Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Huawei E169 Group Buy The Huawei E169 is confirmed to work with mod_gsmopen. Special thanks to Marcus Brown (mzb- on #freedoh) for helping me figure all of this stuff out and for donating a E169, a SIM card, and a virtual machine to run tests. Steve, understood. As far as I can tell the bands that the E169 supports SHOULD cover most of the US carriers that support GSM. Like I said in my last email, it is up to you guys to make sure that it will work in your situation. If it doesn't I'd sell it on ebay, I don't think you'll have a problem getting rid of it. From: http://3g-modem.wetpaint.com/page/Huawei+E169+(E169G,+E169V,+K3520) specifications Huawei E169 manufacturer: Huawei model: E169 interface: USB 2.0 (A plug) GSM frequency bands: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 UMTS frequency bands: 900, 2100 HSDPA: 7,2 MBit/s HSUPA: - EDGE: 236,8 KBit/s GPRS: 57,6 KBit//s CSD: ? connector for ext. antenna: + (on some versions covered by housing) connector type: SMK CRS5001 internal antenna diversity: + voice telephony: + NAND-flashmemory: + microSD-drive: + (up to 8GB) rebranded versions: Vodafone K3520 Vodafone E169V Also: http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/huawei-e169-modem.html -BDF On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org> wrote: Hi, When looking at models of 3G dongles look carefully at whether they support the features you need. This basically comes down to supporting the voice features, and supporting the bands you need in your area. Most recent dongles with a Qualcomm chip set (which is most of them) support the voice features needed to work with FS. However, many SIM locked ones have the feature blocked. Unlocked ones should be OK. Most dongles now support quad band 2G operation, which covers most of the frequencies ever used for 2G GSM. However, most dongles only support one 3G band. Some support 2 bands. There are, however, several bands used for 3G around the planet. If the dongle you choose doesn't support your local 3G bands, you will only be able to use it for 2G communication. That might be OK. It might not. It depends on your local service offerings. Just beware. Steve On 05/13/2012 09:49 AM, Brian Foster wrote:
Fellow freeswitchers,
I am sending this email out to let you all know that I am setting up a group buy for the Huawei E169. It should be compatable with mod_gsmopen, and that will be tested before we go and do a buy. The reason why there is interest in this particular model is the fact that it does have an external antenna jack. Otherwise they are fairly close to the E1550.
...which renders the E169 useless for data but good for GSM so voice/SMS will work. I did look for one that was compatible on the data and GSM side of things but I'm turning up with nothing. Maybe there is a Huawei modem out there that either A) is E1550 compatible (but isn't on Giovanni's list) or B) support can be added fairly easily for it. 4G (LTS) is pretty much out of the question from what I can see as well, 3G (HSPA) would be a good starting point. So, recap: - Huawei Modem that is E1550 compatible (or support can be added) - Voice Enabled - UTMS on 850/1900 - GSM on 850/1900 - Unlocked (or unlockable) *Bonus Points: external antenna jack I'll keep searching around. I've got a friend who's also trying to help me out looking through this stuff (a lot more experienced than I am) but if anyone's got something better please feel free to share. -BDF On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Bote Man <bote_radio@botecomm.com> wrote:
An authoritative source of mine at AT&T Mobility said:****
** **
HSDPA UMTS (850, 1900MHz) . GSM GPRS EDGE (850 , 1900MHz)****
** **
are supported, which looks like his edited version of the E169 data sheet that I e-mailed to him.****
** **
Bote****
** **
** **
** **
*From:* freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] *On Behalf Of *Brian Foster *Sent:* Sunday, 13 May, 2012 02:39 *To:* FreeSWITCH Users Help *Subject:* Re: [Freeswitch-users] Huawei E169 Group Buy****
** **
The Huawei E169 is confirmed to work with mod_gsmopen. Special thanks to Marcus Brown (mzb- on #freedoh) for helping me figure all of this stuff out and for donating a E169, a SIM card, and a virtual machine to run tests. ****
** **
Steve, understood. As far as I can tell the bands that the E169 supports SHOULD cover most of the US carriers that support GSM. Like I said in my last email, it is up to you guys to make sure that it will work in your situation. If it doesn't I'd sell it on ebay, I don't think you'll have a problem getting rid of it.****
From: http://3g-modem.wetpaint.com/page/Huawei+E169+(E169G,+E169V,+K3520)* ***
** **
specifications
Huawei E169****
manufacturer:****
Huawei****
model:****
E169****
interface:****
USB 2.0 (A plug)****
GSM frequency bands:****
850, 900, 1800, 1900****
UMTS frequency bands:****
900, 2100****
HSDPA:****
7,2 MBit/s****
HSUPA:****
-****
EDGE:****
236,8 KBit/s****
GPRS:****
57,6 KBit//s****
CSD:****
?****
connector for ext. antenna:****
+ (on some versions covered by housing)****
connector type:****
SMK CRS5001****
internal antenna diversity:****
+****
voice telephony:****
+****
NAND-flashmemory:****
+****
microSD-drive:****
+ (up to 8GB)****
rebranded versions:****
Vodafone K3520 Vodafone E169V****
Also: http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/huawei-e169-modem.html****
** **
-BDF****
** **
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org> wrote:****
Hi,
When looking at models of 3G dongles look carefully at whether they support the features you need. This basically comes down to supporting the voice features, and supporting the bands you need in your area.
Most recent dongles with a Qualcomm chip set (which is most of them) support the voice features needed to work with FS. However, many SIM locked ones have the feature blocked. Unlocked ones should be OK.
Most dongles now support quad band 2G operation, which covers most of the frequencies ever used for 2G GSM. However, most dongles only support one 3G band. Some support 2 bands. There are, however, several bands used for 3G around the planet. If the dongle you choose doesn't support your local 3G bands, you will only be able to use it for 2G communication. That might be OK. It might not. It depends on your local service offerings. Just beware.
Steve****
On 05/13/2012 09:49 AM, Brian Foster wrote:
Fellow freeswitchers,
I am sending this email out to let you all know that I am setting up a group buy for the Huawei E169. It should be compatable with mod_gsmopen, and that will be tested before we go and do a buy. The reason why there is interest in this particular model is the fact that it does have an external antenna jack. Otherwise they are fairly close to the E1550.
****
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E173 has an external antenna jack On 15/05/2012, at 2:15 AM, Brian Foster wrote:
...which renders the E169 useless for data but good for GSM so voice/SMS will work. I did look for one that was compatible on the data and GSM side of things but I'm turning up with nothing. Maybe there is a Huawei modem out there that either A) is E1550 compatible (but isn't on Giovanni's list) or B) support can be added fairly easily for it. 4G (LTS) is pretty much out of the question from what I can see as well, 3G (HSPA) would be a good starting point.
So, recap:
- Huawei Modem that is E1550 compatible (or support can be added) - Voice Enabled - UTMS on 850/1900 - GSM on 850/1900 - Unlocked (or unlockable) *Bonus Points: external antenna jack
I'll keep searching around. I've got a friend who's also trying to help me out looking through this stuff (a lot more experienced than I am) but if anyone's got something better please feel free to share.
-BDF
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Bote Man <bote_radio@botecomm.com> wrote: An authoritative source of mine at AT&T Mobility said:
HSDPA UMTS (850, 1900MHz) . GSM GPRS EDGE (850 , 1900MHz)
are supported, which looks like his edited version of the E169 data sheet that I e-mailed to him.
Bote
From: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Brian Foster Sent: Sunday, 13 May, 2012 02:39 To: FreeSWITCH Users Help Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Huawei E169 Group Buy
The Huawei E169 is confirmed to work with mod_gsmopen. Special thanks to Marcus Brown (mzb- on #freedoh) for helping me figure all of this stuff out and for donating a E169, a SIM card, and a virtual machine to run tests.
Steve, understood. As far as I can tell the bands that the E169 supports SHOULD cover most of the US carriers that support GSM. Like I said in my last email, it is up to you guys to make sure that it will work in your situation. If it doesn't I'd sell it on ebay, I don't think you'll have a problem getting rid of it.
From: http://3g-modem.wetpaint.com/page/Huawei+E169+(E169G,+E169V,+K3520)
specifications
Huawei E169
manufacturer:
Huawei
model:
E169
interface:
USB 2.0 (A plug)
GSM frequency bands:
850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS frequency bands:
900, 2100
HSDPA:
7,2 MBit/s
HSUPA:
-
EDGE:
236,8 KBit/s
GPRS:
57,6 KBit//s
CSD:
?
connector for ext. antenna:
+ (on some versions covered by housing)
connector type:
SMK CRS5001
internal antenna diversity:
+
voice telephony:
+
NAND-flashmemory:
+
microSD-drive:
+ (up to 8GB)
rebranded versions:
Vodafone K3520 Vodafone E169V
Also: http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/huawei-e169-modem.html
-BDF
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org> wrote:
Hi,
When looking at models of 3G dongles look carefully at whether they support the features you need. This basically comes down to supporting the voice features, and supporting the bands you need in your area.
Most recent dongles with a Qualcomm chip set (which is most of them) support the voice features needed to work with FS. However, many SIM locked ones have the feature blocked. Unlocked ones should be OK.
Most dongles now support quad band 2G operation, which covers most of the frequencies ever used for 2G GSM. However, most dongles only support one 3G band. Some support 2 bands. There are, however, several bands used for 3G around the planet. If the dongle you choose doesn't support your local 3G bands, you will only be able to use it for 2G communication. That might be OK. It might not. It depends on your local service offerings. Just beware.
Steve
On 05/13/2012 09:49 AM, Brian Foster wrote:
Fellow freeswitchers,
I am sending this email out to let you all know that I am setting up a group buy for the Huawei E169. It should be compatable with mod_gsmopen, and that will be tested before we go and do a buy. The reason why there is interest in this particular model is the fact that it does have an external antenna jack. Otherwise they are fairly close to the E1550.
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So does the E169. On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Chris Mylonas <chris@opencsta.org> wrote:
E173 has an external antenna jack
On 15/05/2012, at 2:15 AM, Brian Foster wrote:
...which renders the E169 useless for data but good for GSM so voice/SMS will work. I did look for one that was compatible on the data and GSM side of things but I'm turning up with nothing. Maybe there is a Huawei modem out there that either A) is E1550 compatible (but isn't on Giovanni's list) or B) support can be added fairly easily for it. 4G (LTS) is pretty much out of the question from what I can see as well, 3G (HSPA) would be a good starting point.
So, recap:
- Huawei Modem that is E1550 compatible (or support can be added) - Voice Enabled - UTMS on 850/1900 - GSM on 850/1900 - Unlocked (or unlockable) *Bonus Points: external antenna jack
I'll keep searching around. I've got a friend who's also trying to help me out looking through this stuff (a lot more experienced than I am) but if anyone's got something better please feel free to share.
-BDF
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Bote Man <bote_radio@botecomm.com>wrote:
An authoritative source of mine at AT&T Mobility said:****
** **
HSDPA UMTS (850, 1900MHz) . GSM GPRS EDGE (850 , 1900MHz)****
** **
are supported, which looks like his edited version of the E169 data sheet that I e-mailed to him.****
** **
Bote****
** **
** **
** **
*From:* freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] *On Behalf Of *Brian Foster *Sent:* Sunday, 13 May, 2012 02:39 *To:* FreeSWITCH Users Help *Subject:* Re: [Freeswitch-users] Huawei E169 Group Buy****
** **
The Huawei E169 is confirmed to work with mod_gsmopen. Special thanks to Marcus Brown (mzb- on #freedoh) for helping me figure all of this stuff out and for donating a E169, a SIM card, and a virtual machine to run tests. ****
** **
Steve, understood. As far as I can tell the bands that the E169 supports SHOULD cover most of the US carriers that support GSM. Like I said in my last email, it is up to you guys to make sure that it will work in your situation. If it doesn't I'd sell it on ebay, I don't think you'll have a problem getting rid of it.****
From: http://3g-modem.wetpaint.com/page/Huawei+E169+(E169G,+E169V,+K3520) ****
** **
specifications
Huawei E169****
manufacturer:****
Huawei****
model:****
E169****
interface:****
USB 2.0 (A plug)****
GSM frequency bands:****
850, 900, 1800, 1900****
UMTS frequency bands:****
900, 2100****
HSDPA:****
7,2 MBit/s****
HSUPA:****
-****
EDGE:****
236,8 KBit/s****
GPRS:****
57,6 KBit//s****
CSD:****
?****
connector for ext. antenna:****
+ (on some versions covered by housing)****
connector type:****
SMK CRS5001****
internal antenna diversity:****
+****
voice telephony:****
+****
NAND-flashmemory:****
+****
microSD-drive:****
+ (up to 8GB)****
rebranded versions:****
Vodafone K3520 Vodafone E169V****
Also: http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/huawei-e169-modem.html****
** **
-BDF****
** **
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org> wrote:****
Hi,
When looking at models of 3G dongles look carefully at whether they support the features you need. This basically comes down to supporting the voice features, and supporting the bands you need in your area.
Most recent dongles with a Qualcomm chip set (which is most of them) support the voice features needed to work with FS. However, many SIM locked ones have the feature blocked. Unlocked ones should be OK.
Most dongles now support quad band 2G operation, which covers most of the frequencies ever used for 2G GSM. However, most dongles only support one 3G band. Some support 2 bands. There are, however, several bands used for 3G around the planet. If the dongle you choose doesn't support your local 3G bands, you will only be able to use it for 2G communication. That might be OK. It might not. It depends on your local service offerings. Just beware.
Steve****
On 05/13/2012 09:49 AM, Brian Foster wrote:
Fellow freeswitchers,
I am sending this email out to let you all know that I am setting up a group buy for the Huawei E169. It should be compatable with mod_gsmopen, and that will be tested before we go and do a buy. The reason why there is interest in this particular model is the fact that it does have an external antenna jack. Otherwise they are fairly close to the E1550.
****
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But the E173 supports the US bands. Its looks like it just the US version of the E169. Steve On 05/15/2012 12:42 AM, Brian Foster wrote:
So does the E169.
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Chris Mylonas <chris@opencsta.org <mailto:chris@opencsta.org>> wrote:
E173 has an external antenna jack
On 15/05/2012, at 2:15 AM, Brian Foster wrote:
...which renders the E169 useless for data but good for GSM so voice/SMS will work. I did look for one that was compatible on the data and GSM side of things but I'm turning up with nothing. Maybe there is a Huawei modem out there that either A) is E1550 compatible (but isn't on Giovanni's list) or B) support can be added fairly easily for it. 4G (LTS) is pretty much out of the question from what I can see as well, 3G (HSPA) would be a good starting point.
So, recap:
- Huawei Modem that is E1550 compatible (or support can be added) - Voice Enabled - UTMS on 850/1900 - GSM on 850/1900 - Unlocked (or unlockable) *Bonus Points: external antenna jack
I'll keep searching around. I've got a friend who's also trying to help me out looking through this stuff (a lot more experienced than I am) but if anyone's got something better please feel free to share.
-BDF
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Bote Man <bote_radio@botecomm.com <mailto:bote_radio@botecomm.com>> wrote:
An authoritative source of mine at AT&T Mobility said:
HSDPA UMTS (850, 1900MHz) . GSM GPRS EDGE (850 , 1900MHz)
are supported, which looks like his edited version of the E169 data sheet that I e-mailed to him.
Bote
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The Huawei E169 is confirmed to work with mod_gsmopen. Special thanks to Marcus Brown (mzb- on #freedoh) for helping me figure all of this stuff out and for donating a E169, a SIM card, and a virtual machine to run tests.
Steve, understood. As far as I can tell the bands that the E169 supports SHOULD cover most of the US carriers that support GSM. Like I said in my last email, it is up to you guys to make sure that it will work in your situation. If it doesn't I'd sell it on ebay, I don't think you'll have a problem getting rid of it.
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specifications
Huawei E169
manufacturer:
Huawei
model:
E169
interface:
USB 2.0 (A plug)
GSM frequency bands:
850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS frequency bands:
900, 2100
HSDPA:
7,2 MBit/s
HSUPA:
-
EDGE:
236,8 KBit/s
GPRS:
57,6 KBit//s
CSD:
?
connector for ext. antenna:
+ (on some versions covered by housing)
connector type:
SMK CRS5001
internal antenna diversity:
+
voice telephony:
+
NAND-flashmemory:
+
microSD-drive:
+ (up to 8GB)
rebranded versions:
Vodafone K3520 Vodafone E169V
Also: http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/huawei-e169-modem.html
-BDF
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org <mailto:steveu@coppice.org>> wrote:
Hi,
When looking at models of 3G dongles look carefully at whether they support the features you need. This basically comes down to supporting the voice features, and supporting the bands you need in your area.
Most recent dongles with a Qualcomm chip set (which is most of them) support the voice features needed to work with FS. However, many SIM locked ones have the feature blocked. Unlocked ones should be OK.
Most dongles now support quad band 2G operation, which covers most of the frequencies ever used for 2G GSM. However, most dongles only support one 3G band. Some support 2 bands. There are, however, several bands used for 3G around the planet. If the dongle you choose doesn't support your local 3G bands, you will only be able to use it for 2G communication. That might be OK. It might not. It depends on your local service offerings. Just beware.
Steve
On 05/13/2012 09:49 AM, Brian Foster wrote: > > Fellow freeswitchers, > > I am sending this email out to let you all know that I am setting up a > group buy for the Huawei E169. It should be compatable with > mod_gsmopen, and that will be tested before we go and do a buy. The > reason why there is interest in this particular model is the fact that > it does have an external antenna jack. Otherwise they are fairly close > to the E1550. >
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Steve, *manufacturer:**Huawei**Huawei**Huawei**Huawei**model:**E173u-1**E173u-2** E173s-1**E173s-2*interface:USB 2.0 (A plug)USB 2.0 (A plug)USB 2.0 (A plug)USB 2.0 (A plug)GSM frequency bands:850, 900, 1800, 1900850, 900, 1800, 1900850, 900, 1800, 1900850, 900, 1800, 1900UMTS frequency bands:2100900, 21002100900, 2100HSDPA:7.2 Mbps7.2 Mbps7.2 Mb/s<http://apps.t-mobile.pl/productApp-web/user/jsp/product_details.jsp?productId=4015&market=P&type=data>7.2 Mb/sHSUPA:5,76 Mbit/s5,76 Mbit/s1.92 Mb/s<http://apps.t-mobile.pl/productApp-web/user/jsp/product_details.jsp?productId=4015&market=P&type=data>2 Mb/s<http://www.orange.pl/klienci_ind/orange_free_19/modemy/huawei/huawei_e173s-2?loyalty=24&priceParams=-1:3493:XT_5402> EDGE:236,8 KBit/s236,8 KBit/s236,8 KBit/s236,8 KBit/sGPRS:57,6 KBit//s57,6 KBit//s57,6 KBit//s57,6 KBit//sCSD:????connector for ext. antenna:noyesno* / yes**yesconnector type:-CRC9-* / CRC9**CRC9internal antenna diversity:????voice telephony:?yes??NAND-flashmemory:++ (96 MB)+ (32 MB)+microSD-drive:++++rebranded versions: Play Online (PL)*) T-Mobile.hr, **) BlueconnectOrange.pl<http://www.orange.pl/klienci_ind/orange_free_19/modemy/huawei/huawei_e173s-2?loyalty=24&priceParams=-1:3493:XT_5402> T-Mobile.pl<http://apps.t-mobile.pl/productApp-web/user/jsp/product_details.jsp?productId=4015&market=P&type=data> They look fairly similar. UTMS wouldn't be covered in either case. -BDF On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org>wrote:
But the E173 supports the US bands. Its looks like it just the US version of the E169.
Steve
On 05/15/2012 12:42 AM, Brian Foster wrote:
So does the E169.
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Chris Mylonas <chris@opencsta.org <mailto:chris@opencsta.org>> wrote:
E173 has an external antenna jack
On 15/05/2012, at 2:15 AM, Brian Foster wrote:
...which renders the E169 useless for data but good for GSM so voice/SMS will work. I did look for one that was compatible on the data and GSM side of things but I'm turning up with nothing. Maybe there is a Huawei modem out there that either A) is E1550 compatible (but isn't on Giovanni's list) or B) support can be added fairly easily for it. 4G (LTS) is pretty much out of the question from what I can see as well, 3G (HSPA) would be a good starting point.
So, recap:
- Huawei Modem that is E1550 compatible (or support can be added) - Voice Enabled - UTMS on 850/1900 - GSM on 850/1900 - Unlocked (or unlockable) *Bonus Points: external antenna jack
I'll keep searching around. I've got a friend who's also trying to help me out looking through this stuff (a lot more experienced than I am) but if anyone's got something better please feel free to share.
-BDF
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Bote Man <bote_radio@botecomm.com <mailto:bote_radio@botecomm.com>> wrote:
An authoritative source of mine at AT&T Mobility said:
HSDPA UMTS (850, 1900MHz) . GSM GPRS EDGE (850 , 1900MHz)
are supported, which looks like his edited version of the E169 data sheet that I e-mailed to him.
Bote
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The Huawei E169 is confirmed to work with mod_gsmopen. Special thanks to Marcus Brown (mzb- on #freedoh) for helping me figure all of this stuff out and for donating a E169, a SIM card, and a virtual machine to run tests.
Steve, understood. As far as I can tell the bands that the E169 supports SHOULD cover most of the US carriers that support GSM. Like I said in my last email, it is up to you guys to make sure that it will work in your situation. If it doesn't I'd sell it on ebay, I don't think you'll have a problem getting rid of it.
From:
http://3g-modem.wetpaint.com/page/Huawei+E169+(E169G,+E169V,+K3520)
<
http://3g-modem.wetpaint.com/page/Huawei+E169+%28E169G,+E169V,+K3520%29>
specifications
Huawei E169
manufacturer:
Huawei
model:
E169
interface:
USB 2.0 (A plug)
GSM frequency bands:
850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS frequency bands:
900, 2100
HSDPA:
7,2 MBit/s
HSUPA:
-
EDGE:
236,8 KBit/s
GPRS:
57,6 KBit//s
CSD:
?
connector for ext. antenna:
+ (on some versions covered by housing)
connector type:
SMK CRS5001
internal antenna diversity:
+
voice telephony:
+
NAND-flashmemory:
+
microSD-drive:
+ (up to 8GB)
rebranded versions:
Vodafone K3520 Vodafone E169V
Also: http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/huawei-e169-modem.html
-BDF
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org <mailto:steveu@coppice.org>> wrote:
Hi,
When looking at models of 3G dongles look carefully at whether they support the features you need. This basically comes down to supporting the voice features, and supporting the bands you need in your area.
Most recent dongles with a Qualcomm chip set (which is most of them) support the voice features needed to work with FS. However, many SIM locked ones have the feature blocked. Unlocked ones should be
OK.
Most dongles now support quad band 2G operation, which covers most of the frequencies ever used for 2G GSM. However, most dongles only support one 3G band. Some support 2 bands. There are, however, several bands used for 3G around the planet. If the dongle you choose doesn't support your local 3G bands, you will only be able to use it for 2G communication. That might be OK. It might not. It depends on your local service offerings. Just beware.
Steve
On 05/13/2012 09:49 AM, Brian Foster wrote: > > Fellow freeswitchers, > > I am sending this email out to let you all know that I am setting up a > group buy for the Huawei E169. It should be compatable with > mod_gsmopen, and that will be tested before we go and do a buy. The > reason why there is interest in this particular model is the fact that > it does have an external antenna jack. Otherwise they are fairly close > to the E1550. >
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Did we figure out what model is best for the US market? Looks quite interesting. -- W
I'd really like to pull Giovanni aside and have a talk to see if we can come up with a solution for the "ultimate dongle" that is compatible with all bands in the US and has an external antenna jack. I'm not exactly fluent in all of this. If we can find one and support can be added in easily, I'd go as far as buying one somewhere and letting him have access to my machine so he can figure it all out. Giovanni, contact me off list or on IRC of interested. -BDF On May 18, 2012 11:08 AM, "William Suffill" <william.suffill@gmail.com> wrote:
Did we figure out what model is best for the US market? Looks quite interesting.
-- W
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If the price is $25 I will take 2. On May 12, 2012 9:51 PM, "Brian Foster" <bdfoster@endigotech.com> wrote:
Fellow freeswitchers,
I am sending this email out to let you all know that I am setting up a group buy for the Huawei E169. It should be compatable with mod_gsmopen, and that will be tested before we go and do a buy. The reason why there is interest in this particular model is the fact that it does have an external antenna jack. Otherwise they are fairly close to the E1550.
If you are interested, make sure you do your research to make sure this single will work for you. No refunds. Send an email to gsmdongle@endigotech.com letting me know how many you want and the best way to get ahold of you. Deadline is May 30th to get your requests in.
There will be no refunds. There will be no markup on price. Buyers are responsible for shipping. Price range should be $25-35. US/Canada residents only. Must be 18 years or older. Payment via PayPal only. Notice will be sent out a few days after May 30th to confirm we have enough interested and how much each single will be. At that time you will need to send a payment to the PayPal address. Payments will be in two stages, the first will be for the product itself, the second will be for the shipping to your address.
There needs to be a minimum of 20 dongles ordered before I can go ahead and buy. Payments need to be collected prior to me going ahead and buying.
If you have any questions, email me off list.
-BDF
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Please send an email to gsmdongle@endigotech.com with how many you want and the best way to reach you. You aren't obligated to buy until we actually go and order them. Just getting a head count at this stage. don't know what the exact price will be yet, the more that are interested the lower the price is. -BDF On May 13, 2012 3:29 PM, "David J" <david@styleflare.com> wrote:
If the price is $25 I will take 2. On May 12, 2012 9:51 PM, "Brian Foster" <bdfoster@endigotech.com> wrote:
Fellow freeswitchers,
I am sending this email out to let you all know that I am setting up a group buy for the Huawei E169. It should be compatable with mod_gsmopen, and that will be tested before we go and do a buy. The reason why there is interest in this particular model is the fact that it does have an external antenna jack. Otherwise they are fairly close to the E1550.
If you are interested, make sure you do your research to make sure this single will work for you. No refunds. Send an email to gsmdongle@endigotech.com letting me know how many you want and the best way to get ahold of you. Deadline is May 30th to get your requests in.
There will be no refunds. There will be no markup on price. Buyers are responsible for shipping. Price range should be $25-35. US/Canada residents only. Must be 18 years or older. Payment via PayPal only. Notice will be sent out a few days after May 30th to confirm we have enough interested and how much each single will be. At that time you will need to send a payment to the PayPal address. Payments will be in two stages, the first will be for the product itself, the second will be for the shipping to your address.
There needs to be a minimum of 20 dongles ordered before I can go ahead and buy. Payments need to be collected prior to me going ahead and buying.
If you have any questions, email me off list.
-BDF
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participants (8)
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Bote Man
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Brian Foster
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Chris Mylonas
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curriegrad2004
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David J
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Giovanni Maruzzelli
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Steve Underwood
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William Suffill