Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2
What is mfcr2 used to interface with? Michael Murdock VP Operations & Development Switchmaxx Product Line 125 N. Market. Suite 1520 Wichita KS. 67202 (316) 932-2693 -----Original Message----- From: Brian West [mailto:brian.west@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:46 AM Eastern Standard Time To: Yeruult[ICN]; freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2 Do you happen to know of an open source libmfcr2 that is license compatible with FreeSWITCH? /b On Jan 29, 2007, at 7:10 AM, Yeruult[ICN] wrote:
Hello all,
Does Freeswitch supports mfcr2? I know mfcr2 is old protocol but that doesn't mean ppl don't use it. As I know there is still many guys from everywhere. As I understood asterisk v1.4 becoming complicated for Steve Underwood's unicall library. Is there any other open sources which supports mfcr2?
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hi, MFC/R2 is a signaling form on the 'CAS tree' of a PRI - in this case mostly E1. The equivalent T1 is CAS/R1. Both are actually far more in use than you would expect, and we can start with the US, South America and Asia where various forms still are heavily used. As for implementing a MFC/R2 stack on FreeSwitch I would consult with Steve because there are few around with the skills and interest to work on this - and this signaling form has a very complex story when it comes to the issue of variants. Jan Mike Murdock wrote:
What is mfcr2 used to interface with?
Michael Murdock VP Operations & Development Switchmaxx Product Line 125 N. Market. Suite 1520 Wichita KS. 67202 (316) 932-2693
-----Original Message----- From: Brian West [mailto:brian.west@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:46 AM Eastern Standard Time To: Yeruult[ICN]; freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2
Do you happen to know of an open source libmfcr2 that is license compatible with FreeSWITCH?
/b
On Jan 29, 2007, at 7:10 AM, Yeruult[ICN] wrote:
Hello all,
Does Freeswitch supports mfcr2? I know mfcr2 is old protocol but that doesn't mean ppl don't use it. As I know there is still many guys from everywhere. As I understood asterisk v1.4 becoming complicated for Steve Underwood's unicall library. Is there any other open sources which supports mfcr2?
--
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Yeruult[ICN] mailto:yeruult@icn-mn.net
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Steve won't do this because we aren't GPL. He has a stack but its not license compatible. /b On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:22 AM, janvb@caselaboratories.com wrote:
hi,
MFC/R2 is a signaling form on the 'CAS tree' of a PRI - in this case mostly E1. The equivalent T1 is CAS/R1. Both are actually far more in use than you would expect, and we can start with the US, South America and Asia where various forms still are heavily used.
As for implementing a MFC/R2 stack on FreeSwitch I would consult with Steve because there are few around with the skills and interest to work on this - and this signaling form has a very complex story when it comes to the issue of variants.
Jan
Mike Murdock wrote:
What is mfcr2 used to interface with?
Michael Murdock VP Operations & Development Switchmaxx Product Line 125 N. Market. Suite 1520 Wichita KS. 67202 (316) 932-2693
-----Original Message----- From: Brian West [mailto:brian.west@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:46 AM Eastern Standard Time To: Yeruult[ICN]; freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2
Do you happen to know of an open source libmfcr2 that is license compatible with FreeSWITCH?
/b
On Jan 29, 2007, at 7:10 AM, Yeruult[ICN] wrote:
Hello all,
Does Freeswitch supports mfcr2? I know mfcr2 is old protocol but that doesn't mean ppl don't use it. As I know there is still many guys from everywhere. As I understood asterisk v1.4 becoming complicated for Steve Underwood's unicall library. Is there any other open sources which supports mfcr2?
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Yeruult[ICN] mailto:yeruult@icn-mn.net
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Hi, I am a PCM-TDM switch developer/coder/designer for more than decade. I can offer my services as consultant on MFCR2/R1 or MFR2 modified etc. Regards Rajeev Vats +91-9891499320 Coral Telecom Ltd INDIA ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian West To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:16 AM Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2 Steve won't do this because we aren't GPL. He has a stack but its not license compatible. /b On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:22 AM, janvb@caselaboratories.com wrote: hi, MFC/R2 is a signaling form on the 'CAS tree' of a PRI - in this case mostly E1. The equivalent T1 is CAS/R1. Both are actually far more in use than you would expect, and we can start with the US, South America and Asia where various forms still are heavily used. As for implementing a MFC/R2 stack on FreeSwitch I would consult with Steve because there are few around with the skills and interest to work on this - and this signaling form has a very complex story when it comes to the issue of variants. Jan Mike Murdock wrote: What is mfcr2 used to interface with? Michael Murdock VP Operations & Development Switchmaxx Product Line 125 N. Market. Suite 1520 Wichita KS. 67202 (316) 932-2693 -----Original Message----- From: Brian West [mailto:brian.west@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:46 AM Eastern Standard Time To: Yeruult[ICN]; freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2 Do you happen to know of an open source libmfcr2 that is license compatible with FreeSWITCH? /b On Jan 29, 2007, at 7:10 AM, Yeruult[ICN] wrote: > Hello all, > > > > Does Freeswitch supports mfcr2? I know mfcr2 is old protocol but > that doesn't mean ppl don't use it. As I know there is still many > guys from everywhere. As I understood asterisk v1.4 becoming > complicated for Steve Underwood's unicall library. Is there any > other open sources which supports mfcr2? > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Yeruult[ICN] mailto:yeruult@icn-mn.net > > _______________________________________________ > Freeswitch-users mailing list > Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch- > users > http://www.freeswitch.org --------------------------------------------------------------------------_______________________________________________ Freeswitch-users mailing list Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org _______________________________________________ Freeswitch-users mailing list Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Freeswitch-users mailing list Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ !-- Virus-Free Mail Using PostMaster Enterprise AvAc & QuickHeal Engine --! !-- Virus-Free Mail Using PostMaster Enterprise AvAc & QuickHeal Engine --! CONFIDENTIALITY INFORMATION AND DISCLAIMER This communication being sent by Coral Telecom Ltd is privileged and confidential, and is directed to and for the use of the addressee only. If this message reaches anyone other than the intended recipient, we request the reader not to reproduce, copy, disseminate or in any manner distribute it. We further request such recipient to notify us immediately by return email and delete the original message. Coral Telecom Ltd does not guarantee the security of any information transmitted electronically and is not liable for the proper, timely and complete transmission thereof. ----------------------------------- Coral Telecom Limited, Noida, India
I would still like to work with Steve if possible he has been very kind to us already giving us G722 and various other things. /b On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:44 PM, Rajeev Vats wrote:
Hi, I am a PCM-TDM switch developer/coder/designer for more than decade. I can offer my services as consultant on MFCR2/R1 or MFR2 modified etc. Regards Rajeev Vats +91-9891499320 Coral Telecom Ltd INDIA ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian West To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:16 AM Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2
Steve won't do this because we aren't GPL. He has a stack but its not license compatible.
/b
On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:22 AM, janvb@caselaboratories.com wrote:
hi,
MFC/R2 is a signaling form on the 'CAS tree' of a PRI - in this case mostly E1. The equivalent T1 is CAS/R1. Both are actually far more in use than you would expect, and we can start with the US, South America and Asia where various forms still are heavily used.
As for implementing a MFC/R2 stack on FreeSwitch I would consult with Steve because there are few around with the skills and interest to work on this - and this signaling form has a very complex story when it comes to the issue of variants.
Jan
Mike Murdock wrote:
What is mfcr2 used to interface with?
Michael Murdock VP Operations & Development Switchmaxx Product Line 125 N. Market. Suite 1520 Wichita KS. 67202 (316) 932-2693
-----Original Message----- From: Brian West [mailto:brian.west@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:46 AM Eastern Standard Time To: Yeruult[ICN]; freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2
Do you happen to know of an open source libmfcr2 that is license compatible with FreeSWITCH?
/b
On Jan 29, 2007, at 7:10 AM, Yeruult[ICN] wrote:
Hello all,
Does Freeswitch supports mfcr2? I know mfcr2 is old protocol but that doesn't mean ppl don't use it. As I know there is still many guys from everywhere. As I understood asterisk v1.4 becoming complicated for Steve Underwood's unicall library. Is there any other open sources which supports mfcr2?
--
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Yeruult[ICN] mailto:yeruult@icn-mn.net
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hi, Steve do provide the stack as a library, so this is mostly a challenge for FreeSwitch to find a solution to use GPL code. It is fully possible for FreeSwitch to do so without violating any of the licenses. You simply use it as a binary module - various schemes are possible. Jan Brian West wrote:
I would still like to work with Steve if possible he has been very kind to us already giving us G722 and various other things.
/b
On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:44 PM, Rajeev Vats wrote:
Hi, I am a PCM-TDM switch developer/coder/designer for more than decade. I can offer my services as consultant on MFCR2/R1 or MFR2 modified etc. Regards Rajeev Vats +91-9891499320 Coral Telecom Ltd INDIA
----- Original Message ----- *From:* Brian West <mailto:brian.west@mac.com> *To:* freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:16 AM *Subject:* Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2
Steve won't do this because we aren't GPL. He has a stack but its not license compatible.
/b
On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:22 AM, janvb@caselaboratories.com <mailto:janvb@caselaboratories.com> wrote:
hi,
MFC/R2 is a signaling form on the 'CAS tree' of a PRI - in this case mostly E1. The equivalent T1 is CAS/R1. Both are actually far more in use than you would expect, and we can start with the US, South America and Asia where various forms still are heavily used.
As for implementing a MFC/R2 stack on FreeSwitch I would consult with Steve because there are few around with the skills and interest to work on this - and this signaling form has a very complex story when it comes to the issue of variants.
Jan
Mike Murdock wrote:
What is mfcr2 used to interface with?
Michael Murdock VP Operations & Development Switchmaxx Product Line 125 N. Market. Suite 1520 Wichita KS. 67202 (316) 932-2693
-----Original Message----- From: Brian West [mailto:brian.west@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:46 AM Eastern Standard Time To: Yeruult[ICN]; freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2
Do you happen to know of an open source libmfcr2 that is license compatible with FreeSWITCH?
/b
On Jan 29, 2007, at 7:10 AM, Yeruult[ICN] wrote:
> Hello all, > > > > Does Freeswitch supports mfcr2? I know mfcr2 is old protocol but > that doesn't mean ppl don't use it. As I know there is still many > guys from everywhere. As I understood asterisk v1.4 becoming > complicated for Steve Underwood's unicall library. Is there any > other open sources which supports mfcr2? > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Yeruult[ICN] mailto:yeruult@icn-mn.net > > _______________________________________________ > Freeswitch-users mailing list > Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch- > users > http://www.freeswitch.org
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Jan, You apparently don't understand the GPL from that statement. If we ship anything that is GPL in binary or source it will convert our ENTIRE project to GPL. That is the viral nature of the GPL which is the main issue. /b On Jan 31, 2006, at 10:31 AM, janvb@caselaboratories.com wrote:
hi,
Steve do provide the stack as a library, so this is mostly a challenge for FreeSwitch to find a solution to use GPL code. It is fully possible for FreeSwitch to do so without violating any of the licenses. You simply use it as a binary module - various schemes are possible.
Jan
Brian West wrote:
I would still like to work with Steve if possible he has been very kind to us already giving us G722 and various other things.
/b
On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:44 PM, Rajeev Vats wrote:
Hi, I am a PCM-TDM switch developer/coder/designer for more than decade. I can offer my services as consultant on MFCR2/R1 or MFR2 modified etc. Regards Rajeev Vats +91-9891499320 Coral Telecom Ltd INDIA ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian West To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:16 AM Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2
Steve won't do this because we aren't GPL. He has a stack but its not license compatible.
/b
On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:22 AM, janvb@caselaboratories.com wrote:
hi,
MFC/R2 is a signaling form on the 'CAS tree' of a PRI - in this case mostly E1. The equivalent T1 is CAS/R1. Both are actually far more in use than you would expect, and we can start with the US, South America and Asia where various forms still are heavily used.
As for implementing a MFC/R2 stack on FreeSwitch I would consult with Steve because there are few around with the skills and interest to work on this - and this signaling form has a very complex story when it comes to the issue of variants.
Jan
Mike Murdock wrote:
What is mfcr2 used to interface with?
Michael Murdock VP Operations & Development Switchmaxx Product Line 125 N. Market. Suite 1520 Wichita KS. 67202 (316) 932-2693
-----Original Message----- From: Brian West [mailto:brian.west@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:46 AM Eastern Standard Time To: Yeruult[ICN]; freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2
Do you happen to know of an open source libmfcr2 that is license compatible with FreeSWITCH?
/b
On Jan 29, 2007, at 7:10 AM, Yeruult[ICN] wrote:
Hello all,
Does Freeswitch supports mfcr2? I know mfcr2 is old protocol but that doesn't mean ppl don't use it. As I know there is still many guys from everywhere. As I understood asterisk v1.4 becoming complicated for Steve Underwood's unicall library. Is there any other open sources which supports mfcr2?
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Brian: Then don't ship it with the binary (don't put it in SVN)! Let the user download it. Isn't it the same situation with G.729? Nikolay Kolev _____ From: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Brian West Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 8:41 AM To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2 Jan, You apparently don't understand the GPL from that statement. If we ship anything that is GPL in binary or source it will convert our ENTIRE project to GPL. That is the viral nature of the GPL which is the main issue. /b On Jan 31, 2006, at 10:31 AM, janvb@caselaboratories.com wrote: hi, Steve do provide the stack as a library, so this is mostly a challenge for FreeSwitch to find a solution to use GPL code. It is fully possible for FreeSwitch to do so without violating any of the licenses. You simply use it as a binary module - various schemes are possible. Jan Brian West wrote: I would still like to work with Steve if possible he has been very kind to us already giving us G722 and various other things. /b On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:44 PM, Rajeev Vats wrote: Hi, I am a PCM-TDM switch developer/coder/designer for more than decade. I can offer my services as consultant on MFCR2/R1 or MFR2 modified etc. Regards Rajeev Vats +91-9891499320 Coral Telecom Ltd INDIA ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian West <mailto:brian.west@mac.com> To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:16 AM Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2 Steve won't do this because we aren't GPL. He has a stack but its not license compatible. /b On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:22 AM, janvb@caselaboratories.com wrote: hi, MFC/R2 is a signaling form on the 'CAS tree' of a PRI - in this case mostly E1. The equivalent T1 is CAS/R1. Both are actually far more in use than you would expect, and we can start with the US, South America and Asia where various forms still are heavily used. As for implementing a MFC/R2 stack on FreeSwitch I would consult with Steve because there are few around with the skills and interest to work on this - and this signaling form has a very complex story when it comes to the issue of variants. Jan Mike Murdock wrote: What is mfcr2 used to interface with? Michael Murdock VP Operations & Development Switchmaxx Product Line 125 N. Market. Suite 1520 Wichita KS. 67202 (316) 932-2693 -----Original Message----- From: Brian West [mailto:brian.west@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:46 AM Eastern Standard Time To: Yeruult[ICN]; freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2 Do you happen to know of an open source libmfcr2 that is license compatible with FreeSWITCH? /b On Jan 29, 2007, at 7:10 AM, Yeruult[ICN] wrote:
Hello all,
Does Freeswitch supports mfcr2? I know mfcr2 is old protocol but that doesn't mean ppl don't use it. As I know there is still many guys from everywhere. As I understood asterisk v1.4 becoming complicated for Steve Underwood's unicall library. Is there any other open sources which supports mfcr2?
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You're correct the end user can combine things that are incompatible without any recourse. /b On Jan 31, 2007, at 11:16 AM, Nikolay Kolev wrote:
Brian:
Then don’t ship it with the binary (don’t put it in SVN)! Let the user download it. Isn’t it the same situation with G.729?
Nikolay Kolev
From: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Brian West Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 8:41 AM To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2
Jan,
You apparently don't understand the GPL from that statement. If we ship anything that is GPL in binary or source it will convert our ENTIRE project to GPL. That is the viral nature of the GPL which is the main issue.
/b
On Jan 31, 2006, at 10:31 AM, janvb@caselaboratories.com wrote:
hi,
Steve do provide the stack as a library, so this is mostly a challenge for FreeSwitch to find a solution to use GPL code. It is fully possible for FreeSwitch to do so without violating any of the licenses. You simply use it as a binary module - various schemes are possible.
Jan
Brian West wrote:
I would still like to work with Steve if possible he has been very kind to us already giving us G722 and various other things.
/b
On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:44 PM, Rajeev Vats wrote:
Hi,
I am a PCM-TDM switch developer/coder/designer for more than decade. I can offer my services as consultant on MFCR2/R1 or MFR2 modified etc.
Regards
Rajeev Vats
+91-9891499320
Coral Telecom Ltd
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Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2
Steve won't do this because we aren't GPL. He has a stack but its not license compatible.
/b
On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:22 AM, janvb@caselaboratories.com wrote:
hi,
MFC/R2 is a signaling form on the 'CAS tree' of a PRI - in this case mostly E1. The equivalent T1 is CAS/R1. Both are actually far more in use than you would expect, and we can start with the US, South America and Asia where various forms still are heavily used.
As for implementing a MFC/R2 stack on FreeSwitch I would consult with Steve because there are few around with the skills and interest to work on this - and this signaling form has a very complex story when it comes to the issue of variants.
Jan
Mike Murdock wrote:
What is mfcr2 used to interface with?
Michael Murdock VP Operations & Development Switchmaxx Product Line 125 N. Market. Suite 1520 Wichita KS. 67202 (316) 932-2693
-----Original Message----- From: Brian West [mailto:brian.west@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:46 AM Eastern Standard Time To: Yeruult[ICN]; freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2
Do you happen to know of an open source libmfcr2 that is license compatible with FreeSWITCH?
/b
On Jan 29, 2007, at 7:10 AM, Yeruult[ICN] wrote:
Hello all,
Does Freeswitch supports mfcr2? I know mfcr2 is old protocol but that doesn't mean ppl don't use it. As I know there is still many guys from everywhere. As I understood asterisk v1.4 becoming complicated for Steve Underwood's unicall library. Is there any other open sources which supports mfcr2?
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Its still not the same situation as G729 tho G729 is patented and without proper licensing for the patents nothing you do is correct... Not to mention that patent holders have some pretty strong restrictions on what you can do... Open Source code almost always ends up requiring a 10000 channel licenses per box its installed on (that¹s about $50,000 USD in licensing per box) From: Brian West <brian.west@mac.com> Reply-To: <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:23:17 -0600 To: <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2 You're correct the end user can combine things that are incompatible without any recourse. /b On Jan 31, 2007, at 11:16 AM, Nikolay Kolev wrote:
Brian: Then don¹t ship it with the binary (don¹t put it in SVN)! Let the user download it. Isn¹t it the same situation with G.729? Nikolay Kolev
From: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Brian West Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 8:41 AM To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2
Jan,
You apparently don't understand the GPL from that statement. If we ship anything that is GPL in binary or source it will convert our ENTIRE project to GPL. That is the viral nature of the GPL which is the main issue.
/b
On Jan 31, 2006, at 10:31 AM, janvb@caselaboratories.com wrote:
hi,
Steve do provide the stack as a library, so this is mostly a challenge for FreeSwitch to find a solution to use GPL code. It is fully possible for FreeSwitch to do so without violating any of the licenses. You simply use it as a binary module - various schemes are possible.
Jan
Brian West wrote: I would still like to work with Steve if possible he has been very kind to us already giving us G722 and various other things.
/b
On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:44 PM, Rajeev Vats wrote:
Hi,
I am a PCM-TDM switch developer/coder/designer for more than decade. I can offer my services as consultant on MFCR2/R1 or MFR2 modified etc.
Regards
Rajeev Vats
+91-9891499320
Coral Telecom Ltd
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----- Original Message -----
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To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:16 AM
G.729 have a commercial license, so that is very special. And this is one of the pains because many GPL projects would like to use it. Jan Nikolay Kolev wrote:
Brian:
Then don't ship it with the binary (don't put it in SVN)! Let the user download it. Isn't it the same situation with G.729?
Nikolay Kolev
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*From:* freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] *On Behalf Of *Brian West *Sent:* Wednesday, January 31, 2007 8:41 AM *To:* freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org *Subject:* Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2
Jan,
You apparently don't understand the GPL from that statement. If we ship anything that is GPL in binary or source it will convert our ENTIRE project to GPL. That is the viral nature of the GPL which is the main issue.
/b
On Jan 31, 2006, at 10:31 AM, janvb@caselaboratories.com <mailto:janvb@caselaboratories.com> wrote:
hi,
Steve do provide the stack as a library, so this is mostly a challenge for FreeSwitch to find a solution to use GPL code. It is fully possible for FreeSwitch to do so without violating any of the licenses. You simply use it as a binary module - various schemes are possible.
Jan
Brian West wrote:
I would still like to work with Steve if possible he has been very kind to us already giving us G722 and various other things.
/b
On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:44 PM, Rajeev Vats wrote:
Hi,
I am a PCM-TDM switch developer/coder/designer for more than decade. I can offer my services as consultant on MFCR2/R1 or MFR2 modified etc.
Regards
Rajeev Vats
+91-9891499320
Coral Telecom Ltd
INDIA
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*To:* freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org>
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*Subject:* Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2
Steve won't do this because we aren't GPL. He has a stack but its not license compatible.
/b
On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:22 AM, janvb@caselaboratories.com <mailto:janvb@caselaboratories.com> wrote:
hi,
MFC/R2 is a signaling form on the 'CAS tree' of a PRI - in this case mostly E1. The equivalent T1 is CAS/R1. Both are actually far more in use than you would expect, and we can start with the US, South America and Asia where various forms still are heavily used.
As for implementing a MFC/R2 stack on FreeSwitch I would consult with Steve because there are few around with the skills and interest to work on this - and this signaling form has a very complex story when it comes to the issue of variants.
Jan
Mike Murdock wrote:
What is mfcr2 used to interface with?
Michael Murdock VP Operations & Development Switchmaxx Product Line 125 N. Market. Suite 1520 Wichita KS. 67202 (316) 932-2693
-----Original Message----- From: Brian West [mailto:brian.west@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:46 AM Eastern Standard Time To: Yeruult[ICN]; freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2
Do you happen to know of an open source libmfcr2 that is license compatible with FreeSWITCH?
/b
On Jan 29, 2007, at 7:10 AM, Yeruult[ICN] wrote:
> Hello all, > > > > Does Freeswitch supports mfcr2? I know mfcr2 is old protocol but > that doesn't mean ppl don't use it. As I know there is still many > guys from everywhere. As I understood asterisk v1.4 becoming > complicated for Steve Underwood's unicall library. Is there any > other open sources which supports mfcr2? > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Yeruult[ICN] mailto:yeruult@icn-mn.net > > _______________________________________________ > Freeswitch-users mailing list > Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch- > users > http://www.freeswitch.org
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hi Brian, Not if it the modules are separate stand-alone projects. The rules are well defined in the GPL. You actually already do this with various packages distributed with Linux and distributions like Red Hat, Mandrake or Suse actually do exist don't they? But, that said - I would in this very case ask for Steve's permission and respect hes opinion. Jan Brian West wrote:
Jan, You apparently don't understand the GPL from that statement. If we ship anything that is GPL in binary or source it will convert our ENTIRE project to GPL. That is the viral nature of the GPL which is the main issue.
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hi,
Steve do provide the stack as a library, so this is mostly a challenge for FreeSwitch to find a solution to use GPL code. It is fully possible for FreeSwitch to do so without violating any of the licenses. You simply use it as a binary module - various schemes are possible.
Jan
Brian West wrote:
I would still like to work with Steve if possible he has been very kind to us already giving us G722 and various other things.
/b
On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:44 PM, Rajeev Vats wrote:
Hi, I am a PCM-TDM switch developer/coder/designer for more than decade. I can offer my services as consultant on MFCR2/R1 or MFR2 modified etc. Regards Rajeev Vats +91-9891499320 Coral Telecom Ltd INDIA
----- Original Message ----- *From:* Brian West <mailto:brian.west@mac.com> *To:* freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:16 AM *Subject:* Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2
Steve won't do this because we aren't GPL. He has a stack but its not license compatible.
/b
On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:22 AM, janvb@caselaboratories.com <mailto:janvb@caselaboratories.com> wrote:
hi,
MFC/R2 is a signaling form on the 'CAS tree' of a PRI - in this case mostly E1. The equivalent T1 is CAS/R1. Both are actually far more in use than you would expect, and we can start with the US, South America and Asia where various forms still are heavily used.
As for implementing a MFC/R2 stack on FreeSwitch I would consult with Steve because there are few around with the skills and interest to work on this - and this signaling form has a very complex story when it comes to the issue of variants.
Jan
Mike Murdock wrote:
What is mfcr2 used to interface with?
Michael Murdock VP Operations & Development Switchmaxx Product Line 125 N. Market. Suite 1520 Wichita KS. 67202 (316) 932-2693
-----Original Message----- From: Brian West [mailto:brian.west@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:46 AM Eastern Standard Time To: Yeruult[ICN]; freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2
Do you happen to know of an open source libmfcr2 that is license compatible with FreeSWITCH?
/b
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> Hello all, > > > > Does Freeswitch supports mfcr2? I know mfcr2 is old protocol but > that doesn't mean ppl don't use it. As I know there is still many > guys from everywhere. As I understood asterisk v1.4 becoming > complicated for Steve Underwood's unicall library. Is there any > other open sources which supports mfcr2? > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Yeruult[ICN] mailto:yeruult@icn-mn.net > > _______________________________________________ > Freeswitch-users mailing list > Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch- > users > http://www.freeswitch.org
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Hello all I'm glad that many people interested for mfcr2 library. Actually I've just want to know is R2 supported on freeswitch or not? I've got answer. As I see many people will interest r2 library. So I think we have to ask Steve for permission. I think it's better to ask who knows Steve very well and explain to Steve that there is many ppl who wants he's r2 library. -- Best regards, Yeruult[ICN] mailto:yeruult@icn-mn.net
hi Brian,
Not if it the modules are separate stand-alone projects. The rules are well defined in the GPL. You actually already do this with various packages distributed with Linux and distributions like Red Hat, Mandrake or Suse actually do exist don't they?
But, that said - I would in this very case ask for Steve's permission and respect hes opinion.
Jan
Brian West wrote: Jan, You apparently don't understand the GPL from that statement. If we ship anything that is GPL in binary or source it will convert our ENTIRE project to GPL. That is the viral nature of the GPL which is the main issue.
/b
On Jan 31, 2006, at 10:31 AM, janvb@caselaboratories.com wrote:
hi,
Steve do provide the stack as a library, so this is mostly a challenge for FreeSwitch to find a solution to use GPL code. It is fully possible for FreeSwitch to do so without violating any of the licenses. You simply use it as a binary module - various schemes are possible.
Jan
Brian West wrote: I would still like to work with Steve if possible he has been very kind to us already giving us G722 and various other things.
/b
On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:44 PM, Rajeev Vats wrote:
Hi,
I am a PCM-TDM switch developer/coder/designer for more than decade. I can offer my services as consultant on MFCR2/R1 or MFR2 modified etc.
Regards
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Steve won't do this because we aren't GPL. He has a stack but its not license compatible.
/b
On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:22 AM, janvb@caselaboratories.com wrote:
hi,
MFC/R2 is a signaling form on the 'CAS tree' of a PRI - in this case mostly E1. The equivalent T1 is CAS/R1. Both are actually far more in use than you would expect, and we can start with the US, South America and Asia where various forms still are heavily used.
As for implementing a MFC/R2 stack on FreeSwitch I would consult with Steve because there are few around with the skills and interest to work on this - and this signaling form has a very complex story when it comes to the issue of variants.
Jan
Mike Murdock wrote:
What is mfcr2 used to interface with?
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-----Original Message----- From: Brian West [mailto:brian.west@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:46 AM Eastern Standard Time To: Yeruult[ICN]; freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2
Do you happen to know of an open source libmfcr2 that is license compatible with FreeSWITCH?
/b
On Jan 29, 2007, at 7:10 AM, Yeruult[ICN] wrote:
Hello all,
Does Freeswitch supports mfcr2? I know mfcr2 is old protocol but that doesn't mean ppl don't use it. As I know there is still many guys from everywhere. As I understood asterisk v1.4 becoming complicated for Steve Underwood's unicall library. Is there any other open sources which supports mfcr2?
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Do you think Steve would be willing to re-release his stack under LGPL? At least that way it could be included as a binary. Otherwise maybe someone could write a shell script that operates as part of the install process - it could do the heavy lifting of wget-ting the stack source, make/make install-ing it, etc. Just a thought. -MC _____ From: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of janvb@caselaboratories.com Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:35 PM To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2 hi Brian, Not if it the modules are separate stand-alone projects. The rules are well defined in the GPL. You actually already do this with various packages distributed with Linux and distributions like Red Hat, Mandrake or Suse actually do exist don't they? But, that said - I would in this very case ask for Steve's permission and respect hes opinion. Jan Brian West wrote: Jan, You apparently don't understand the GPL from that statement. If we ship anything that is GPL in binary or source it will convert our ENTIRE project to GPL. That is the viral nature of the GPL which is the main issue. /b On Jan 31, 2006, at 10:31 AM, janvb@caselaboratories.com wrote: hi, Steve do provide the stack as a library, so this is mostly a challenge for FreeSwitch to find a solution to use GPL code. It is fully possible for FreeSwitch to do so without violating any of the licenses. You simply use it as a binary module - various schemes are possible. Jan Brian West wrote: I would still like to work with Steve if possible he has been very kind to us already giving us G722 and various other things. /b On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:44 PM, Rajeev Vats wrote: Hi, I am a PCM-TDM switch developer/coder/designer for more than decade. I can offer my services as consultant on MFCR2/R1 or MFR2 modified etc. Regards Rajeev Vats +91-9891499320 Coral Telecom Ltd INDIA ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian West <mailto:brian.west@mac.com> To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:16 AM Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2 Steve won't do this because we aren't GPL. He has a stack but its not license compatible. /b On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:22 AM, janvb@caselaboratories.com wrote: hi, MFC/R2 is a signaling form on the 'CAS tree' of a PRI - in this case mostly E1. The equivalent T1 is CAS/R1. Both are actually far more in use than you would expect, and we can start with the US, South America and Asia where various forms still are heavily used. As for implementing a MFC/R2 stack on FreeSwitch I would consult with Steve because there are few around with the skills and interest to work on this - and this signaling form has a very complex story when it comes to the issue of variants. Jan Mike Murdock wrote: What is mfcr2 used to interface with? Michael Murdock VP Operations & Development Switchmaxx Product Line 125 N. Market. Suite 1520 Wichita KS. 67202 (316) 932-2693 -----Original Message----- From: Brian West [mailto:brian.west@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:46 AM Eastern Standard Time To: Yeruult[ICN]; freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2 Do you happen to know of an open source libmfcr2 that is license compatible with FreeSWITCH? /b On Jan 29, 2007, at 7:10 AM, Yeruult[ICN] wrote:
Hello all,
Does Freeswitch supports mfcr2? I know mfcr2 is old protocol but that doesn't mean ppl don't use it. As I know there is still many guys from everywhere. As I understood asterisk v1.4 becoming complicated for Steve Underwood's unicall library. Is there any other open sources which supports mfcr2?
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We know Steve, we talk to him on a daily basis. He has helped us in several ways with this project, but there is NO CHANCE he will do anything to change the license of spandsp or unicall. It has been discussed before and it will not happen. If we make a script that downloads gpl code and links to our project, it's probably still a gpl violation, maybe not to the letter of it, but some folks would say so. We have no interest in "working around" qwirks in the licenses our friends use on their software to make them compatible. If we use spandsp with freeswitch, it will only be within the spirit and intention of the license, as a stand alone app that speaks most likely sip/udptl/rtp/t38. We have discussed this in the past and it is still a possibility. As for mfcr2, I'll throw the same comment out that brian did on pri. If anyone has an mfcr2 stack they would like to donate, we are more than happy to work with you to integrate it into freeswitch. Mike ________________________________ From: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Michael Collins Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 12:39 PM To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2 Do you think Steve would be willing to re-release his stack under LGPL? At least that way it could be included as a binary. Otherwise maybe someone could write a shell script that operates as part of the install process - it could do the heavy lifting of wget-ting the stack source, make/make install-ing it, etc. Just a thought. -MC
lgpl is perfectly compatible with our code base... and binary only wouldn't be required. /b On Feb 2, 2007, at 11:39 AM, Michael Collins wrote:
Do you think Steve would be willing to re-release his stack under LGPL? At least that way it could be included as a binary. Otherwise maybe someone could write a shell script that operates as part of the install process – it could do the heavy lifting of wget- ting the stack source, make/make install-ing it, etc. Just a thought.
-MC
From: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of janvb@caselaboratories.com Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:35 PM To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2
hi Brian,
Not if it the modules are separate stand-alone projects. The rules are well defined in the GPL. You actually already do this with various packages distributed with Linux and distributions like Red Hat, Mandrake or Suse actually do exist don't they?
But, that said - I would in this very case ask for Steve's permission and respect hes opinion.
Jan
Brian West wrote:
Jan,
You apparently don't understand the GPL from that statement. If we ship anything that is GPL in binary or source it will convert our ENTIRE project to GPL. That is the viral nature of the GPL which is the main issue.
/b
On Jan 31, 2006, at 10:31 AM, janvb@caselaboratories.com wrote:
hi,
Steve do provide the stack as a library, so this is mostly a challenge for FreeSwitch to find a solution to use GPL code. It is fully possible for FreeSwitch to do so without violating any of the licenses. You simply use it as a binary module - various schemes are possible.
Jan
Brian West wrote:
I would still like to work with Steve if possible he has been very kind to us already giving us G722 and various other things.
/b
On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:44 PM, Rajeev Vats wrote:
Hi,
I am a PCM-TDM switch developer/coder/designer for more than decade. I can offer my services as consultant on MFCR2/R1 or MFR2 modified etc.
Regards
Rajeev Vats
+91-9891499320
Coral Telecom Ltd
INDIA
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian West
To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2
Steve won't do this because we aren't GPL. He has a stack but its not license compatible.
/b
On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:22 AM, janvb@caselaboratories.com wrote:
hi,
MFC/R2 is a signaling form on the 'CAS tree' of a PRI - in this case mostly E1. The equivalent T1 is CAS/R1. Both are actually far more in use than you would expect, and we can start with the US, South America and Asia where various forms still are heavily used.
As for implementing a MFC/R2 stack on FreeSwitch I would consult with Steve because there are few around with the skills and interest to work on this - and this signaling form has a very complex story when it comes to the issue of variants.
Jan
Mike Murdock wrote:
What is mfcr2 used to interface with?
Michael Murdock VP Operations & Development Switchmaxx Product Line 125 N. Market. Suite 1520 Wichita KS. 67202 (316) 932-2693
-----Original Message----- From: Brian West [mailto:brian.west@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:46 AM Eastern Standard Time To: Yeruult[ICN]; freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] mfcr2
Do you happen to know of an open source libmfcr2 that is license compatible with FreeSWITCH?
/b
On Jan 29, 2007, at 7:10 AM, Yeruult[ICN] wrote:
Hello all,
Does Freeswitch supports mfcr2? I know mfcr2 is old protocol but that doesn't mean ppl don't use it. As I know there is still many guys from everywhere. As I understood asterisk v1.4 becoming complicated for Steve Underwood's unicall library. Is there any other open sources which supports mfcr2?
--
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Yeruult[ICN] mailto:yeruult@icn-mn.net
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Brian West
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janvb＠caselaboratories.com
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Ken Rice
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Michael Collins
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Michael Jerris
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Mike Murdock
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Nikolay Kolev
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Rajeev Vats
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Yeruult Dorjsuren
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Yeruult[ICN]