Great! 

please go ahead claim lawyers' ignorance and lobby german that email pdf is a document as equivalent as fax. We are looking forward to you next great accomplish.  囧

On Mar 7, 2011 9:41 AM, "Ken Rice" <krice@freeswitch.org> wrote:
> Whats the old saying? Ignorance is bliss? Heh
>
> Just because and end user perceives it as being more secure doesn¹t make it
> so... Even faxing over voip you just tcpdump out the rtp and process it thru
> and you can recover then entire exchange... Same thing with a laptop, a
> sound card, and a wav recorder with a cheap passive phone tap... Only
> difference with legacy PSTN vs VoIP is its easier to hack a box somewhere
> along the way and intercept the traffic vs finding the trunk line carrying
> the traffic, however, it doesn¹t take long to figure out that there are tons
> of unsecure access points to the wire between your office and the CO...
> (even the fiber these days can be compromised relatively easily compared to
> what it was 10 years ago)
>
> My whole point here is I am not malicious when it comes to this sort of
> thing but I know what can be done and how cheap the technology to pull off
> these things really is. I smart but I am far from the smartest guy and if I
> can figure out how to do this stuff many people can figure it out...
>
> I¹m still say that the only secure computer is one fired into the sun on the
> tip of a rocket with no comms back to earth.. Then that¹s only secure until
> someone figures out how to retrieve it.
>
> K
>
>
>
> On 3/7/11 11:24 AM, "envelopes envelopes" <sunwood360@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From the perspective of end user,  it is pretty easier to hacker an end user'
>> inbox globally.  However, you need physical presence to grab fax documents.
>>
>> Interesting to see the view from IT people is so different from non-technical
>> people. After, any existence has its reason.
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2011 8:56 AM, "Ken Rice" <krice@freeswitch.org> wrote:
>>
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