Yes, faxing is great fun! But it&#39;s true, if you&#39;re working for someone you can recommend better ways, but if a client says &#39;I want fax&#39; and you say &#39;no&#39;, kiss that sale goodbye. I&#39;d rather support faxing (which freeswitch makes pretty simple) than lose out on all the money! <div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 10 July 2012 12:12, Brian Foster <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:bdfoster@endigotech.com" target="_blank">bdfoster@endigotech.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p>Besides, fax is fun, right?</p><div class="im HOEnZb">
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</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On Jul 10, 2012 12:43 AM, &quot;Michael Giagnocavo&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:mgg@giagnocavo.net" target="_blank">mgg@giagnocavo.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Sure, and I wholeheartedly agree. But none of these arguments are compelling to users, and making them just means you’ll lose a sale. It’s unlikely a large
 fax customer is going to say “Wow, you know, I now realize faxes are just ancient relics, and we’re going to ditch them.” By not enabling faxes, you only end up harming the customer.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 09, 2012 8:31 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Freeswitch-users] FaxxBochs hackers?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There are more modern ways of legally transmitting documents. Signed and all. I have several clients that are practicing lawyers in multiple states and my own brother has a law firm.<u></u><u></u></p>


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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">These are simply excuses. My point is that there ARE better ways. We just keep enabling a poor, old, and broken technology.<u></u><u></u></p>
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On Jul 9, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Michael Giagnocavo &lt;<a href="mailto:mgg@giagnocavo.net" target="_blank">mgg@giagnocavo.net</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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 part of T.38 was driven by legal requirements.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I disagree. The job of any telecom or IT professional is to also educate and circulate out antiquated equipment.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I don&#39;t know why we still accept the use of faxes when things like typewriters have pretty much been eliminated.<u></u><u></u></p>
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&gt;&gt; Has anyone investigated the new FaxxBochs offering? It appears to handle the<br>
&gt;&gt; analog fax machine locally, then send the fax as a data TCP connection to<br>
&gt;&gt; the server (as a TIFF or JPG I would guess).<br>
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