On Mar 28, 2009, at 3:04 AM, Anthony Minessale wrote:
1) There is an incompatibility on the fake ncurses wrapper that causes an instant seg fault unless you install the real ncurses.
On ubuntu it's libncurses5-dev, use for simple's sake.
2) The bleeding edge GCC builds an openzap binary that crashes instantly with no explanation in the core file from a minimal -O2 (that's just the one copmiler bug that we know about for sure, like cock roaches, see one, there are probably 1000)
we don't use openzap. Is the probably 1000 all in the openzap or anywhere else potentially?.
3) They upgraded to libtool 2.0 which builds binaries that will not start. (easier said than done to upgrade ours too as we have to make sure we work on *every* plarform and the upgrade to make it work would break other operating systems we support)
Understand.
Bottom line, it's not their fault or anything but the choice to use all brand new versions of everything under the sun is not a good idea for your server, it's great that we have bleeding edge stuff or we would not have anyone to test stuff, we have a similar group of people always running SVN trunk of the day. But it's hard to stabalize code when both your code and the OS may be unstable at the same time.
There is a reason they call it bleeding vs stable, which one would you rather be if you were in the hospital. =D
As you mentioned. It's not their fault. ppl want to live on the edge just need to install multi-versions of gcc(or other tools). Like the Linux kernel, to compile from source, gcc-3 was recommended for a long time. Don't know if it's still the case recently.
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