Re: [Freeswitch-dev] Spam:Re: REMOVE
I too have unsubscribed, and yet still get these messages. -----Original Message----- From: "Sensei" <sensei@megaphat.com> To: "freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org" <freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org> Sent: 9/4/2006 3:00 PM Subject: Spam:Re: [Freeswitch-dev] REMOVE Unsubscribing clearly does not work. I have done so hours ago and here I am replying to you all.
-----Original Message----- From: Mark [mailto:mark@supernettel.com] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 2:32 PM To: freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-dev] REMOVE
I have tried that a few times, and I still get this!
North Antara wrote:
Mark wrote:
How do I get off this list? I have tried several times, and as far as I know I never subscribed!
I didn't signup either, but it clearly says how to unsubscribe at the bottom of each message you receive.
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Well guys it does tell you when you signup that you'll be added to the lists. Please go here http://www.freeswitch.org/remove.cgi Thanks, Brian On Sep 4, 2006, at 2:08 PM, Shane Woodruff wrote:
I too have unsubscribed, and yet still get these messages.
-----Original Message----- From: "Sensei" <sensei@megaphat.com> To: "freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org" <freeswitch- dev@lists.freeswitch.org> Sent: 9/4/2006 3:00 PM Subject: Spam:Re: [Freeswitch-dev] REMOVE
Unsubscribing clearly does not work. I have done so hours ago and here I am replying to you all.
-----Original Message----- From: Mark [mailto:mark@supernettel.com] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 2:32 PM To: freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-dev] REMOVE
I have tried that a few times, and I still get this!
North Antara wrote:
Mark wrote:
How do I get off this list? I have tried several times, and as far as I know I never subscribed!
I didn't signup either, but it clearly says how to unsubscribe at the bottom of each message you receive.
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Brian, So you are suggesting removing our freeswitch account altogether? That;s not our goal. We only wish to stop the list from emailing us. This is a poor implementation of developer collaboration. Rather a forum or subscription-based mailing list would be better for this is not only annoying, it is actually considered spam. The removal method of the mailing list fails to work which is in clear violation of the canned-spam act. I wish to participate with the freeswitch community but not at the risk of having 100+ emails devivered to me regarding freeswitch topics that I may not be interested in. Even moreso, any person familiar with Internet etiquette knows that the current implementation is considered rude and violates many Internet Acceptable Use Policies (IAUP). If this continues, my own ISP and my corporate servers will be forced to not only blacklist freeswitch from sending email, but freeswitch may be listed globally in a number of different blacklists, which would certainly not help the freeswitch community. If Anthony needs assistance correcting this problem, he only needs to ask and I am sure my company will at no charge assist in making this experience better for all without violation of any IAUP. Gabriel
-----Original Message----- From: Brian West [mailto:brian.west@mac.com] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:19 PM To: freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org Cc: sensei@megaphat.com Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-dev] Spam:Re: REMOVE
Well guys it does tell you when you signup that you'll be added to the lists.
Please go here http://www.freeswitch.org/remove.cgi
Thanks, Brian
On Sep 4, 2006, at 2:08 PM, Shane Woodruff wrote:
I too have unsubscribed, and yet still get these messages.
-----Original Message----- From: "Sensei" <sensei@megaphat.com> To: "freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org" <freeswitch- dev@lists.freeswitch.org> Sent: 9/4/2006 3:00 PM Subject: Spam:Re: [Freeswitch-dev] REMOVE
Unsubscribing clearly does not work. I have done so hours ago and here I am replying to you all.
-----Original Message----- From: Mark [mailto:mark@supernettel.com] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 2:32 PM To: freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-dev] REMOVE
I have tried that a few times, and I still get this!
North Antara wrote:
Mark wrote:
How do I get off this list? I have tried several times, and as far as I know I never subscribed!
I didn't signup either, but it clearly says how to unsubscribe at the bottom of each message you receive.
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If Anthony needs assistance correcting this problem, he only needs to ask and I am sure my company will at no charge assist in making this experience better for all without violation of any IAUP.
No he doesn't need help we take care of this and it was Anthony's choice to automatically add everyone to the lists when people signup and he feels you need to be on the lists. I removed that without telling him so if you have an issue with that then you'll need to talk to Anthony about it because I only do what I'm told to do by him. I'll have this all fixed over the next few hours. Thanks, Brian
Brian, I am sure Anothony had nothing but good intentions when he asked to have everyone automatically have everyone added to the listserv, however, this should be optional and if it is not optional, your removal methods provided are flawed since they do not work. Although it was with a great heart and the best intentions to have everyone who joins automatically added to the listserv, this action is a clear violation of IAUP that is common amongst most ISP's and hosting providers (within the United States, United Kingdom, Australia, Italy, France, Canada, Spain, Germany, Sweden, Hong Kong, Japan, Guam, and a few others that directly interact with the IC and NANOG). As a member, I am only trying to help the administrators of the site provide a more comfortable experience not only or the users but the manager of the system so that we may all work and interact with one another to help FreeSwitch grow beyond bounds and limitations. Thank you. _____ From: Brian West [mailto:brian.west@mac.com] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:59 PM To: sensei@megaphat.com Cc: freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: REMOVE If Anthony needs assistance correcting this problem, he only needs to ask and I am sure my company will at no charge assist in making this experience better for all without violation of any IAUP. No he doesn't need help we take care of this and it was Anthony's choice to automatically add everyone to the lists when people signup and he feels you need to be on the lists. I removed that without telling him so if you have an issue with that then you'll need to talk to Anthony about it because I only do what I'm told to do by him. I'll have this all fixed over the next few hours. Thanks, Brian
Please, remove me from your mailing list. Andrew Sensei <sensei@megaphat.com> wrote: Brian, I am sure Anothony had nothing but good intentions when he asked to have everyone automatically have everyone added to the listserv, however, this should be optional and if it is not optional, your removal methods provided are flawed since they do not work. Although it was with a great heart and the best intentions to have everyone who joins automatically added to the listserv, this action is a clear violation of IAUP that is common amongst most ISP's and hosting providers (within the United States, United Kingdom, Australia, Italy, France, Canada, Spain, Germany, Sweden, Hong Kong, Japan, Guam, and a few others that directly interact with the IC and NANOG). As a member, I am only trying to help the administrators of the site provide a more comfortable experience not only or the users but the manager of the system so that we may all work and interact with one another to help FreeSwitch grow beyond bounds and limitations. Thank you. --------------------------------- From: Brian West [mailto:brian.west@mac.com] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:59 PM To: sensei@megaphat.com Cc: freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: REMOVE If Anthony needs assistance correcting this problem, he only needs to ask and I am sure my company will at no charge assist in making this experience better for all without violation of any IAUP. No he doesn't need help we take care of this and it was Anthony's choice to automatically add everyone to the lists when people signup and he feels you need to be on the lists. I removed that without telling him so if you have an issue with that then you'll need to talk to Anthony about it because I only do what I'm told to do by him. I'll have this all fixed over the next few hours. Thanks, Brian _______________________________________________ Freeswitch-dev mailing list Freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-dev UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-dev http://www.freeswitch.org --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I understand that you want off the list ok, fine. I'm sure your request is being processed. When you signed up I believe you were notified that it would subscribe you to the mailing list. Therefore this would not be considered spam, period. If you ask to be taken off of a mailing list, have you ever noticed that it might take a little while? I know it's not ideal but I guess I don't see why it's worth getting all fired up about. If you like, I'll send you a gmail invite and you can sign up using your gmail account. You can participate in the community and just let the emails build up in there. Darren Wiebe dwiebe@hmsinet.ca Sensei wrote:
Brian,
So you are suggesting removing our freeswitch account altogether? That;s not our goal. We only wish to stop the list from emailing us.
This is a poor implementation of developer collaboration. Rather a forum or subscription-based mailing list would be better for this is not only annoying, it is actually considered spam. The removal method of the mailing list fails to work which is in clear violation of the canned-spam act.
I wish to participate with the freeswitch community but not at the risk of having 100+ emails devivered to me regarding freeswitch topics that I may not be interested in. Even moreso, any person familiar with Internet etiquette knows that the current implementation is considered rude and violates many Internet Acceptable Use Policies (IAUP).
If this continues, my own ISP and my corporate servers will be forced to not only blacklist freeswitch from sending email, but freeswitch may be listed globally in a number of different blacklists, which would certainly not help the freeswitch community.
If Anthony needs assistance correcting this problem, he only needs to ask and I am sure my company will at no charge assist in making this experience better for all without violation of any IAUP.
Gabriel
-----Original Message----- From: Brian West [mailto:brian.west@mac.com] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:19 PM To: freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org Cc: sensei@megaphat.com Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-dev] Spam:Re: REMOVE
Well guys it does tell you when you signup that you'll be added to the lists.
Please go here http://www.freeswitch.org/remove.cgi
Thanks, Brian
On Sep 4, 2006, at 2:08 PM, Shane Woodruff wrote:
I too have unsubscribed, and yet still get these messages.
-----Original Message----- From: "Sensei" <sensei@megaphat.com> To: "freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org" <freeswitch- dev@lists.freeswitch.org> Sent: 9/4/2006 3:00 PM Subject: Spam:Re: [Freeswitch-dev] REMOVE
Unsubscribing clearly does not work. I have done so hours ago and here I am replying to you all.
-----Original Message----- From: Mark [mailto:mark@supernettel.com] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 2:32 PM To: freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-dev] REMOVE
I have tried that a few times, and I still get this!
North Antara wrote:
Mark wrote:
How do I get off this list? I have tried several times, and as far as I know I never subscribed!
I didn't signup either, but it clearly says how to unsubscribe at the bottom of each message you receive.
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Shane Woodruff <shanew@subpay.com> wrote: I too have unsubscribed, and yet still get these messages. -----Original Message----- From: "Sensei" To: "freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org" Sent: 9/4/2006 3:00 PM Subject: Spam:Re: [Freeswitch-dev] REMOVE Unsubscribing clearly does not work. I have done so hours ago and here I am replying to you all.
-----Original Message----- From: Mark [mailto:mark@supernettel.com] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 2:32 PM To: freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-dev] REMOVE
I have tried that a few times, and I still get this!
North Antara wrote:
Mark wrote:
How do I get off this list? I have tried several times, and as far as I know I never subscribed!
I didn't signup either, but it clearly says how to unsubscribe at the bottom of each message you receive.
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Brian West
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