[Freeswitch-dev] FSComm video support
Hi all, Does FSComm support video calls, inf no are there any plans for it? If yes, what codecs does it support?
Hi There is no video support in the moment I intend to add video probably using theora codec Paulo On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:35 AM, rentmycoder rentmycoder < rentmycoder@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Does FSComm support video calls, inf no are there any plans for it? If yes, what codecs does it support?
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That would be an amazing contribution. The biggest problem here is that there's no endpoint module on FS that currently supports video. Since FSComm is completely relying on FS's capabilities, I turn the question to FS module developers. If I recall correctly, there are thousands of IP problems when it comes to video encoding and that's an area no one is really willing to dive in right now... Regards, João Mesquita On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Paulo Vicentini <vicentini.paulo@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi There is no video support in the moment I intend to add video probably using theora codec
Paulo
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:35 AM, rentmycoder rentmycoder < rentmycoder@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Does FSComm support video calls, inf no are there any plans for it? If yes, what codecs does it support?
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What do you mean IP problems? 2010/9/3 João Mesquita <jmesquita@freeswitch.org>:
That would be an amazing contribution. The biggest problem here is that there's no endpoint module on FS that currently supports video. Since FSComm is completely relying on FS's capabilities, I turn the question to FS module developers. If I recall correctly, there are thousands of IP problems when it comes to video encoding and that's an area no one is really willing to dive in right now... Regards, João Mesquita
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Paulo Vicentini <vicentini.paulo@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi There is no video support in the moment I intend to add video probably using theora codec Paulo On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:35 AM, rentmycoder rentmycoder <rentmycoder@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Does FSComm support video calls, inf no are there any plans for it? If yes, what codecs does it support?
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"there are thousands of IP problems when it comes to video encoding" That is why I am supposed to use http://www.theora.org/ PS, IP: Intellectual Property Paulo On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 6:05 AM, Seven Du <dujinfang@gmail.com> wrote:
What do you mean IP problems?
2010/9/3 João Mesquita <jmesquita@freeswitch.org>:
That would be an amazing contribution. The biggest problem here is that there's no endpoint module on FS that currently supports video. Since FSComm is completely relying on FS's capabilities, I turn the question to FS module developers. If I recall correctly, there are thousands of IP problems when it comes to video encoding and that's an area no one is really willing to dive in right now... Regards, João Mesquita
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Paulo Vicentini < vicentini.paulo@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi There is no video support in the moment I intend to add video probably using theora codec Paulo On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:35 AM, rentmycoder rentmycoder <rentmycoder@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Does FSComm support video calls, inf no are there any plans for it? If yes, what codecs does it support?
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Why not build it on top of ffmpeg (like linphone or ekiga) and take advantage of the codecs it already supports? They have a FAQ about patents: http://ffmpeg.org/legal.html I'm just asking because video transcoding is expensive and, unfortunately, H.26x are the standard codecs for the video industry. Regards, Paulo R. Panhoto. On 3/9/2010 11:11, Paulo Vicentini wrote:
"there are thousands of IP problems when it comes to video encoding" That is why I am supposed to use http://www.theora.org/
PS, IP: Intellectual Property Paulo
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 6:05 AM, Seven Du <dujinfang@gmail.com <mailto:dujinfang@gmail.com>> wrote:
What do you mean IP problems?
2010/9/3 João Mesquita <jmesquita@freeswitch.org <mailto:jmesquita@freeswitch.org>>: > That would be an amazing contribution. > The biggest problem here is that there's no endpoint module on FS that > currently supports video. Since FSComm is completely relying on FS's > capabilities, I turn the question to FS module developers. If I recall > correctly, there are thousands of IP problems when it comes to video > encoding and that's an area no one is really willing to dive in right now... > Regards, > João Mesquita > > > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Paulo Vicentini <vicentini.paulo@gmail.com <mailto:vicentini.paulo@gmail.com>> > wrote: >> >> Hi >> There is no video support in the moment >> I intend to add video probably using theora codec >> Paulo >> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:35 AM, rentmycoder rentmycoder >> <rentmycoder@gmail.com <mailto:rentmycoder@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Does FSComm support video calls, inf no are there any plans for it? >>> If yes, what codecs does it support? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FreeSWITCH-dev mailing list >>> FreeSWITCH-dev@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:FreeSWITCH-dev@lists.freeswitch.org> >>> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-dev >>> UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-dev >>> http://www.freeswitch.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FreeSWITCH-dev mailing list >> FreeSWITCH-dev@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:FreeSWITCH-dev@lists.freeswitch.org> >> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-dev >> UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-dev >> http://www.freeswitch.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > FreeSWITCH-dev mailing list > FreeSWITCH-dev@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:FreeSWITCH-dev@lists.freeswitch.org> > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-dev > UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-dev > http://www.freeswitch.org > >
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License compatibility. /b On Sep 3, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Paulo Rogério Panhoto wrote:
Why not build it on top of ffmpeg (like linphone or ekiga) and take advantage of the codecs it already supports? They have a FAQ about patents: http://ffmpeg.org/legal.html
I'm just asking because video transcoding is expensive and, unfortunately, H.26x are the standard codecs for the video industry.
Regards,
Paulo R. Panhoto.
Sorry, I didn't follow. Isn't ffmpeg LGPL, like Qt? On 3/9/2010 15:58, Brian West wrote:
License compatibility.
/b
On Sep 3, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Paulo Rogério Panhoto wrote:
Why not build it on top of ffmpeg (like linphone or ekiga) and take advantage of the codecs it already supports? They have a FAQ about patents: http://ffmpeg.org/legal.html
I'm just asking because video transcoding is expensive and, unfortunately, H.26x are the standard codecs for the video industry.
Regards,
Paulo R. Panhoto.
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On 09/03/10 21:29, Paulo Rogério Panhoto wrote:
Sorry, I didn't follow. Isn't ffmpeg LGPL, like Qt?
"FFmpeg is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL) version 2.1 or later. However, FFmpeg incorporates several optional parts and optimizations that are covered by the GNU General Public License (GPL) version 2 or later. If those parts get used the GPL applies to all of FFmpeg." Only if you built it to be LGPL-only.
x264, the one for h264, is GPL Mathieu Rene Avant-Garde Solutions Inc Office: + 1 (514) 664-1044 x100 Cell: +1 (514) 664-1044 x200 mrene@avgs.ca On 2010-09-03, at 3:51 PM, Stefan Knoblich wrote:
On 09/03/10 21:29, Paulo Rogério Panhoto wrote:
Sorry, I didn't follow. Isn't ffmpeg LGPL, like Qt?
"FFmpeg is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL) version 2.1 or later. However, FFmpeg incorporates several optional parts and optimizations that are covered by the GNU General Public License (GPL) version 2 or later. If those parts get used the GPL applies to all of FFmpeg."
Only if you built it to be LGPL-only.
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Leaving only H.261, H.263(+) (and webm?) implemented in libavcodec and theora, (dirac, webm) using external libs. (And some additional "esoteric" codecs.) On 09/03/10 22:09, Mathieu Rene wrote:
x264, the one for h264, is GPL
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On 2010-09-03, at 3:51 PM, Stefan Knoblich wrote:
On 09/03/10 21:29, Paulo Rogério Panhoto wrote:
Sorry, I didn't follow. Isn't ffmpeg LGPL, like Qt?
"FFmpeg is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL) version 2.1 or later. However, FFmpeg incorporates several optional parts and optimizations that are covered by the GNU General Public License (GPL) version 2 or later. If those parts get used the GPL applies to all of FFmpeg."
Only if you built it to be LGPL-only.
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Though, there *is* a loophole where, since you are not bundling or distributing the code, you can design it to work with ffmpeg in general and leave it up to the individual user to choose to configure it with the GPL components enabled. GPL/LGPL is not even the real issue (open source fighting over licensing to bring one another down is like ghetto crime but that's a different subject), The real problem is the patent. but again. you are letting each user worry about that individually. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Stefan Knoblich <stkn@freeswitch.org> wrote:
Leaving only H.261, H.263(+) (and webm?) implemented in libavcodec and theora, (dirac, webm) using external libs.
(And some additional "esoteric" codecs.)
On 09/03/10 22:09, Mathieu Rene wrote:
x264, the one for h264, is GPL
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On 2010-09-03, at 3:51 PM, Stefan Knoblich wrote:
On 09/03/10 21:29, Paulo Rogério Panhoto wrote:
Sorry, I didn't follow. Isn't ffmpeg LGPL, like Qt?
"FFmpeg is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL) version 2.1 or later. However, FFmpeg incorporates several optional parts and optimizations that are covered by the GNU General Public License (GPL) version 2 or later. If those parts get used the GPL applies to all of FFmpeg."
Only if you built it to be LGPL-only.
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So, just for me to get this straight. It's OK to add H.263+ as a FS module? Or it only needs to be integrated on FSComm? Regards, João Mesquita On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Anthony Minessale < anthony.minessale@gmail.com> wrote:
Though, there *is* a loophole where, since you are not bundling or distributing the code, you can design it to work with ffmpeg in general and leave it up to the individual user to choose to configure it with the GPL components enabled.
GPL/LGPL is not even the real issue (open source fighting over licensing to bring one another down is like ghetto crime but that's a different subject), The real problem is the patent. but again. you are letting each user worry about that individually.
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Stefan Knoblich <stkn@freeswitch.org> wrote:
Leaving only H.261, H.263(+) (and webm?) implemented in libavcodec and theora, (dirac, webm) using external libs.
(And some additional "esoteric" codecs.)
On 09/03/10 22:09, Mathieu Rene wrote:
x264, the one for h264, is GPL
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On 2010-09-03, at 3:51 PM, Stefan Knoblich wrote:
On 09/03/10 21:29, Paulo Rogério Panhoto wrote:
Sorry, I didn't follow. Isn't ffmpeg LGPL, like Qt?
"FFmpeg is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL) version 2.1 or later. However, FFmpeg incorporates several optional parts and optimizations that are covered by the GNU General Public License (GPL) version 2 or later. If those parts get used the GPL applies to all of FFmpeg."
Only if you built it to be LGPL-only.
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if you use ffmpeg as an abstraction, you can design it around that and not care which codec it is, and let it be chosen via that interface. Weather or not the end-user chooses to compile in h26x support is all up to them. 2010/9/3 João Mesquita <jmesquita@freeswitch.org>:
So, just for me to get this straight. It's OK to add H.263+ as a FS module? Or it only needs to be integrated on FSComm? Regards, João Mesquita
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Anthony Minessale <anthony.minessale@gmail.com> wrote:
Though, there *is* a loophole where, since you are not bundling or distributing the code, you can design it to work with ffmpeg in general and leave it up to the individual user to choose to configure it with the GPL components enabled.
GPL/LGPL is not even the real issue (open source fighting over licensing to bring one another down is like ghetto crime but that's a different subject), The real problem is the patent. but again. you are letting each user worry about that individually.
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Stefan Knoblich <stkn@freeswitch.org> wrote:
Leaving only H.261, H.263(+) (and webm?) implemented in libavcodec and theora, (dirac, webm) using external libs.
(And some additional "esoteric" codecs.)
On 09/03/10 22:09, Mathieu Rene wrote:
x264, the one for h264, is GPL
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On 2010-09-03, at 3:51 PM, Stefan Knoblich wrote:
On 09/03/10 21:29, Paulo Rogério Panhoto wrote:
Sorry, I didn't follow. Isn't ffmpeg LGPL, like Qt?
"FFmpeg is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL) version 2.1 or later. However, FFmpeg incorporates several optional parts and optimizations that are covered by the GNU General Public License (GPL) version 2 or later. If those parts get used the GPL applies to all of FFmpeg."
Only if you built it to be LGPL-only.
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What I would do is write mod_ffmpeg and plug all those codecs into FS then the end user can use what ever. /b On Sep 3, 2010, at 4:26 PM, Anthony Minessale wrote:
if you use ffmpeg as an abstraction, you can design it around that and not care which codec it is, and let it be chosen via that interface. Weather or not the end-user chooses to compile in h26x support is all up to them.
2010/9/3 João Mesquita <jmesquita@freeswitch.org>:
So, just for me to get this straight. It's OK to add H.263+ as a FS module? Or it only needs to be integrated on FSComm? Regards, João Mesquita
ffmpeg supports webm too if I recall [WebM has it's own SDK too. Based on the vp8 for video and Ogg vorbis for audio]
According to their site, they do support. It would be very interesting to make that addition to FS... Imagine how that plays along with the yet to come mod_rtmp... HTML5 video eavesdropping? LOL João Mesquita On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 8:51 PM, William Suffill <william.suffill@gmail.com>wrote:
ffmpeg supports webm too if I recall [WebM has it's own SDK too. Based on the vp8 for video and Ogg vorbis for audio]
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Anthony Minessale
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Brian West
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João Mesquita
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Mathieu Rene
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Paulo Rogério Panhoto
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Paulo Vicentini
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rentmycoder rentmycoder
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Seven Du
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Stefan Knoblich
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William Suffill