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Agreed. I set up a gateway pointing to 127.0.0.1. This ended up giving me an outbound call which came back to an inbound call, so just loopback with extra steps.</div>
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Set up Icecast via local_stream and that sounds fine. Conference members can talk and get mixed with the stream, so far, so good.</div>
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Unless there are any tricks I'm going to need to modify the source to add a new conference member flag called noperpetual - when an endpoint with this flag set enters the conference, it stops the perpetual-audio. </div>
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My use case via Icecast is ALMOST just the default moh stream when using <span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif;font-size:14px;text-align:left;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important">
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> When one endpoint joins an empty conference, they get music-on-hold. When a second endpoint joins, they both get moh but can't hear or talk to the first endpoint. When a moderator arrives, moh goes away and everyone can talk and listen.</div>
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In my Icecast setup what I need is:</div>
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<span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important">> When one endpoint joins an empty conference, they get music-on-hold. When a second endpoint joins, they both get moh and can hear or talk to the first endpoint. When a moderator arrives,
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<span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important">I don't think there's a configuration change to allow conference members to talk/hear over moh, and I don't think there's a configuration change to stop perpetual-audio when a certain
user flag arrives, but if either of those exist, I'd be grateful to hear about them.</span></div>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Each sofia profile mimics a line key on a traditional key phone. I don’t think that will get you what you want, though.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">The playing sound part is doable, but when you throw in the requirement that the audio follows them all over the switch as they transition to different call states…that’s just weird. It’s like music on hold that never goes away, and who
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Try the Shoutcast/Icecast thing, that is designed for one-to-many sound distribution.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">I like it. Having a hard time using one channel out of 128 PortAudio streams for a different application. Will do some research.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">I'm trying to set up 127.0.0.1 as a new SOFIA gateway and loop it that way but that feels wrong.</span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal">I wonder if you could send a Shoutcast stream from the target conference and use that as the "perpetual-sound" for the listen-only conference?</p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal">I followed <a href="https://lists.freeswitch.org/pipermail/freeswitch-dev/2011-March/004754.html">https://lists.freeswitch.org/pipermail/freeswitch-dev/2011-March/004754.html</a> in which Michael Collins suggested loopback to join two
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">I'm doing conference dial loopback/99997 where 99997 in the default dialplan joins a second conference.</span></p>
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<p style="margin-left:4.5pt"><span style="font-size:8.0pt; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">Need Commercial support? email
<a href="mailto:sales@freeswitch.com" target="_blank">sales@freeswitch.com</a> </span>
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<p style="margin-left:4.5pt"><span style="font-size:8.0pt; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">FreeSWITCH Solutions |
<a href="https://maps.google.com/?q=17345+Civic+Drive+%232531+Brookfield,+WI+53045&entry=gmail&source=g" target="_blank">
<span style="color:#1155CC">17345 Civic Drive #2531 Brookfield, WI 53045</span></a></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:4.5pt"><span style="font-size:8.0pt; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">Email:
</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:#1155CC"><a href="mailto:brian@freeswitch.com" target="_blank">brian@freeswitch.com</a></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:4.5pt"><span style="font-size:8.0pt; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">Mobile: 918-424-9378</span></p>
<p style="margin-left:4.5pt"><span style="font-size:8.0pt; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">Website:
</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt; color:black"><a href="https://www.freeswitch.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:8.0pt; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:#1155CC">https://www.FreeSWITCH.com</span></a></span></p>
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