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<body><div style="font-family:Arial;">I agree. I think they are doing it wrong. I obviously believe they need to make money and get paid for their work, I have no problem with that at all, and my company has bought quite a few licenses of their commercial modules and we attend Cluecon every other year. So we have no problem paying but we need to know what we are paying FOR.<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial;">This kind of vague state of things where you just don't know if bugs are now going to be fixed for everyone or just for the privileged ones is not a good path to go down.<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial;">Bug fixes really should be made available to everyone (assuming they are in previously public modules, of course).<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial;">The Freeswitch team should focus their efforts on creating commercial modules, ready-made apps and setups, pro versions of older modules, say enhanced mod_callcenter or whatever. Things like that. But to tell someone to get a premium subscription just to get a bug fixed... that's simply wrong.<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial;">Just my 2 cents</div>
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<div>On Wed, May 30, 2018, at 11:37 AM, William Simon wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-family:Arial;">I thought stability fixes were going to be included in the open source release whereas new features are covered under FSA release cycle. What I am seeing here is unfortunate. Open source users should just accept instability for the 18-month release cycle? <br></div>
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<blockquote type="cite"><div>On May 30, 2018, at 12:35 PM, Michael Jerris <<a href="mailto:mike@jerris.com">mike@jerris.com</a>> wrote:<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial;"><span style="white-space:pre;"></span>This is a specific bug that I know we have fixed. We spent months of work tracking it down, I am very familiar with the issue. This issue is not at all with verto, and is specifically with the sip
secure web socket support. We have never recommended the use of sip web socket support for webrtc, we think that verto is typically a better solution, and is more stable. <br></div>
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<blockquote type="cite"><div>On May 30, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michael Avers <<a href="mailto:michael@mailworks.org">michael@mailworks.org</a>> wrote:<br></div>
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<div><span style="white-space:pre;"></span>I believe this issue is fixed in <a href="https://freeswitch.org/jira/browse/FS-10762">https://freeswitch.org/jira/browse/FS-10762</a> which is available to FSA customers.<br></div>
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<blockquote type="cite"><div>On May 30, 2018, at 10:45 AM, Geoff Mina <<a href="mailto:gmina@connectfirst.com">gmina@connectfirst.com</a>> wrote:<br></div>
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<div><div><div style="font-family:Arial;">Is anyone out there actually using FS successfully in an enterprise environment?<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial;">We have deployed a handful of servers in an extremely simple configuration to allow standard SIP infrastructure to communicate with WebRTC clients.<span> </span><br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial;">We run ~150 concurrent users per host and we can’t go a week without something in the core of Sofia failing. We have seen hung profiles that simply don’t respond to REGISTER requests (tried every suggested tweak to
no avail) as well as seeing FS hang every call in a RINGING state without actually ringing the end client.<span> </span><br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial;">These seem like pretty fundamental components we are struggling with. Our use case seems quite simple - yet the software (1.6.19) seems like it has never even seen a production deployment.<span> </span><br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial;">Anyone out there have a drastically different experience?<span> </span><br></div>
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