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<p>my mistake...</p>
<p>but buffer to close to zero for audio is also a good start....</p>
<p>why not to grab the conferencer stream to a live point</p>
<p>the if someone wants to talk so a 1 click call to the
conference....<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/21/2018 1:43 AM, Giovanni
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<div>is an audio conference.<br>
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what I would look into is something on these lines: have a
conference with only the speakers. Put the listeners on music
on hold, and use the conference output as music on hold
stream. Give the listeners a bind meta key for being connected
to the conference if they need to speak.<br>
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-giovanni<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 20 April 2018 at 21:45,
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<p>Latency is often caused by buffer and high
quality video.</p>
<p>if you really need zero latency so find a way
to set the buffer stream to zero and use</p>
<p>a very fast video encoding.<br>
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4/20/2018 10:29 AM, Abaci B wrote:<br>
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<div>I do understand that the way
mod_conference work it is not
efficient for my use case, my
question is about the best
alternative.<br>
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Streaming would be ideal if it
wouldn't be for the latency, since
users need to be able to switch to
talk mode there is no way a latency
of 5-10 seconds (or possibly more)
is acceptable.<br>
</div>
Another option is to use eavesdrop
which I plan on testing next week to
see if it scales, if someone has any
input on it I would appreciate.<br>
</div>
The next option would be to optimize
mod_conference for this use case, I
started looking at the code and
identified some places that performance
can be optimized but may need to hire
someone with better C skills to do the
actual coding.<br>
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another possibility may be, to use an RTP
proxy that would just distribute the RTP
to all callers, this would give the best
performance but would limit features.<br>
Last option would be to develop a new
module optimized for low latency
streaming, but leave that as a last
resort.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 20,
2018 at 1:15 PM, Tihomir Culjaga <span
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<div dir="ltr">a conference with 1000
members demands huge resources...
and this is not efficient if only
2-5% of members will actually talk.
<div>you need to keep the actual
conference to the minimum number
of "speakers" and move listeners
to a streaming "service".</div>
<div><br>
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<div>so, focus on how to get your
entire conference streamed
somewhere.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>another thing to consider....
do the "listeners" really need to
be in time sync with the
conference ? They will just hear
the conversation from the
conference a bit later... thats
all.</div>
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April 2018 at 14:43, Abaci B <span
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<div dir="ltr">problem with
shoutcast streaming is the
extreme latency<br>
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Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at
1:30 AM, Giovanni
Maruzzelli <span
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<div>you
definitely
want to have
only the
speakers into
conference,
and stream to
all others.<br>
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-giovanni<br>
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19 April 2018
at 23:37,
Abaci B <span
dir="ltr"><<a
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<div>I was
thinking that
the muted flag
(CAN_SPEAK?)
is something
that can
change mid
conference
which means
there is a
chance of
loosing a
single frame
(the last one
right before
muting). I was
more
interested in
knowing as far
as performance
if it makes
sense.<br>
</div>
not sure if
this is safe
but something
like only
starting
conference_loop_launch_input
if that flag
is not set.<br>
</div>
I still wish
there would be
module that
would do
exactly this
(something
like shoutcast
but local and
without the
shoutcast
latency)<br>
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Thu, Apr 19,
2018 at 5:19
PM, Steven
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<div dir="ltr">There's
already a
muted flag you
could use for
that.</div>
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19 April 2018
at 20:55,
Abaci B <span
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<div>Thanks
for the reply.<br>
</div>
Another idea
I'm thinking
of is to add a
LISTEN_ONLY
mflag to
mod_conference
and only run
conference_loop_input
thread on
channels that
don't have
this flag,
that way I
don't need to
set up a
shoutcast
server and
have
everything
contained
within
freeswitch,
does that make
sense?<br>
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2018 at 3:20
PM, Giovanni
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<div
dir="auto">definitely
conference
with two
participant,
and 598 on
localstream
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<div
dir="auto">-giovanni</div>
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2018, 18:38
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<div>Hi,<br>
I'm trying to
set up a large
audio
conference of
over 1000
users where
only 1 or 2
users are
talking and
the rest are
just
listening, but
after 600-700
users the CPU
usage gets too
high and the
audio gets
choppy, I
understand
that
mod_conference
is not
optimized for
my use case
but was
wondering if
someone has
any
suggestions on
what can be
done to
optimize for
my use case.<br>
I was also
thinking that
maybe there is
a better
alternative
for what I
look for, such
as having just
the talkers on
the conference
and the
listeners
should listen
to it via
mod_local_stream
or maybe use
something like
eavesdrop for
the listeners
but not sure
if and how
much
performance I
would gain.<br>
</div>
Thanks for any
help or input<br>
<br>
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<a
href="http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com"
rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.freeswitchsolutions<wbr>.com</a><br>
<br>
Official
FreeSWITCH Sites<br>
<a
href="http://www.freeswitch.org"
rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a
href="http://confluence.freeswitch.org"
rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://confluence.freeswitch.o<wbr>rg</a><br>
<a
href="http://www.cluecon.com"
rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.cluecon.com</a><br>
<br>
FreeSWITCH-users
mailing list<br>
<a
href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswi<wbr>tch.org</a><br>
<a
href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users"
rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.freeswitch.org/ma<wbr>ilman/listinfo/freeswitch-user<wbr>s</a><br>
UNSUBSCRIBE:<a
href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users"
rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.frees<wbr>witch.org/mailman/options/free<wbr>switch-users</a><br>
<a
href="http://www.freeswitch.org"
rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
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______________________________<wbr>______________________________<wbr>_____________<br>
Professional FreeSWITCH
Consulting Services:<br>
<a
href="mailto:consulting@freeswitch.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">consulting@freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a
href="http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com"
rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.freeswitchsolutions<wbr>.com</a><br>
<br>
Official FreeSWITCH Sites<br>
<a
href="http://www.freeswitch.org"
rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a
href="http://confluence.freeswitch.org"
rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://confluence.freeswitch.o<wbr>rg</a><br>
<a
href="http://www.cluecon.com"
rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.cluecon.com</a><br>
<br>
FreeSWITCH-users mailing
list<br>
<a
href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswi<wbr>tch.org</a><br>
<a
href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users"
rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.freeswitch.org/ma<wbr>ilman/listinfo/freeswitch-user<wbr>s</a><br>
UNSUBSCRIBE:<a
href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users"
rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.frees<wbr>witch.org/mailman/options/free<wbr>switch-users</a><br>
<a
href="http://www.freeswitch.org"
rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
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</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
______________________________<wbr>______________________________<wbr>_____________<br>
Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting
Services:<br>
<a
href="mailto:consulting@freeswitch.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">consulting@freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a
href="http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.freeswitchsolutions<wbr>.com</a><br>
<br>
Official FreeSWITCH Sites<br>
<a href="http://www.freeswitch.org"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a
href="http://confluence.freeswitch.org"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://confluence.freeswitch.o<wbr>rg</a><br>
<a href="http://www.cluecon.com"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.cluecon.com</a><br>
<br>
FreeSWITCH-users mailing list<br>
<a
href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswi<wbr>tch.org</a><br>
<a
href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.freeswitch.org/ma<wbr>ilman/listinfo/freeswitch-user<wbr>s</a><br>
UNSUBSCRIBE:<a
href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.frees<wbr>witch.org/mailman/options/<wbr>freeswitch-users</a><br>
<a href="http://www.freeswitch.org"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
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<pre>______________________________<wbr>______________________________<wbr>_____________
Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services:
<a class="m_4030190723390553496moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:consulting@freeswitch.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">consulting@freeswitch.org</a>
<a class="m_4030190723390553496moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.<wbr>freeswitchsolutions.com</a>
Official FreeSWITCH Sites
<a class="m_4030190723390553496moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.freeswitch.org</a>
<a class="m_4030190723390553496moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://confluence.freeswitch.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://confluence.freeswitch.<wbr>org</a>
<a class="m_4030190723390553496moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cluecon.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.cluecon.com</a>
FreeSWITCH-users mailing list
<a class="m_4030190723390553496moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">FreeSWITCH-users@lists.<wbr>freeswitch.org</a>
<a class="m_4030190723390553496moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.freeswitch.org/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-<wbr>users</a>
UNSUBSCRIBE:<a class="m_4030190723390553496moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.<wbr>freeswitch.org/mailman/<wbr>options/freeswitch-users</a>
<a class="m_4030190723390553496moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.freeswitch.org</a></pre>
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<br>
______________________________<wbr>______________________________<wbr>_____________<br>
Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services:<br>
<a href="mailto:consulting@freeswitch.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">consulting@freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.<wbr>freeswitchsolutions.com</a><br>
<br>
Official FreeSWITCH Sites<br>
<a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="http://confluence.freeswitch.org"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://confluence.freeswitch.<wbr>org</a><br>
<a href="http://www.cluecon.com" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.cluecon.com</a><br>
<br>
FreeSWITCH-users mailing list<br>
<a
href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">FreeSWITCH-users@lists.<wbr>freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a
href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.freeswitch.org/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-<wbr>users</a><br>
UNSUBSCRIBE:<a
href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.<wbr>freeswitch.org/mailman/<wbr>options/freeswitch-users</a><br>
<a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
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</span><span><font color="#888888"><br>
Giovanni Maruzzelli<br>
OpenTelecom.IT</font></span><br>
<span>cell: +39 347 266 56 18<span><font
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Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:consulting@freeswitch.org">consulting@freeswitch.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com">http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com</a>
Official FreeSWITCH Sites
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.freeswitch.org">http://www.freeswitch.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://confluence.freeswitch.org">http://confluence.freeswitch.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cluecon.com">http://www.cluecon.com</a>
FreeSWITCH-users mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org">FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users</a>
UNSUBSCRIBE:<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.freeswitch.org">http://www.freeswitch.org</a></pre>
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