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<p>> just because some user can't use the search in an online
forum is just for the wrong reason</p>
<p>could you elaborate?</p>
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<p>if you need to discuss there is a fantastic freeswitch IRC
channel ;)</p>
<p>today the choice to communicate is not based on old or new, it's
just a question of taste....<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/23/2018 10:23 AM, Fred Pettersson
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<div>Thank you all for feedback. Remember this was just my
2-cents. I just want to highlight that I am not saying
mailing-list communication is not working but there are better
options IMO.<br>
<br>
Just to clarify - I am talking about an online forum instead
of the mailing list. To justify the old way just because some
user can't use the search in an online forum is just for the
wrong reason. How many can't use them today or even know it's
there today. It's a shopping window. I know about the FS
books, I've bought three of them (paper). They are good but
they do not cover everything. I know about Confluence, ClueCon
Weekly, I use YouTube to watch them etc. To be fair I think
you are missing my point here :) I think there is room for a
good place to have discussions with others in an easy to use
online tool (forum could serve that).<br>
<br>
You know what's most "scary" about the whole thing? That's non
of you does not even consider or elaborates about a change of
this but tries to guide me how/were instead but I am talking
about the community. Where is the spirit? :)<br>
<br>
As I said I don't want to start a fire here, I want the best
for FreeSWITCH and make the community to grow. I honestly
don't think mailman is the most efficient tool in terms of
growing the community. I rest my case I don't want to start a
big thing.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Fred</div>
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Giovanni Maruzzelli <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gmaruzz@gmail.com"><gmaruzz@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>Skickat:</b> den 23 februari 2018 09:26:23<br>
<b>Till:</b> FreeSWITCH Users Help<br>
<b>Ämne:</b> Re: [Freeswitch-users] My 2 cents - online
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<div>also, don't forget there are 3 FreeSWITCH books out
there, each of them available in ebook, pdf and printed
paper format...<br>
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If you can't buy them, you can at least ask a friend in the
know to provide them to you.<br>
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-giovanni<br>
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<div class="x_gmail_quote">On 22 February 2018 at 21:35, <span
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:krice@tollfreegateway.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">krice@tollfreegateway.com</a>></span>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">As
Paul just said, <a
href="http://lists.freeswitch.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
lists.freeswitch.org</a> contains a complete
archive of the mailing list. This site is heavily
indexed by google.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">A
hint for searching it is when you google use the
“site:<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lists.freeswitch.org</a>”
or “site:<a href="http://freeswitch.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">freeswitch.org</a>”
to restrict your google queries. This should
return anything in the archive relevant to your
actual query string.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Have
fun!</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">K</span></p>
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style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="color:windowtext"> FreeSWITCH-users
[mailto:<a
href="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">freeswitch-users-<wbr>bounces@lists.freeswitch.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Zillmann<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:51
PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
href="mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
freeswitch-users@lists.<wbr>freeswitch.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Freeswitch-users] My 2
cents - online community</span></p>
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<p>Hello Fred,</p>
<p> </p>
<p>I think Google provides a good way of querying
the mailing-list, given that the subject-line is
good and the content isn't just a random
"Hiiiiiiiii - how to solve command"</p>
<p>Many projects in the unix-world including
operating systems rely heavily on mailing-list
communication. And that one works fine.</p>
<p>Could you state more precise what you mean by
an online community board? In my understanding
that would be a forum.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Some users aren't able to use the search
functions in such forums either.</p>
<p>By now I can't see a benefit of an "online
community board".</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Besides the mailing-list you may participate in
the weekly conference call and ClueCon weekly.</p>
<p>Aside from that: don't be afraid to ask on the
list and try to apply the basic rules you'll
find in many online forums: good titles, be
respectful, and put some effort into your text.</p>
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<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Am 22.02.2018 um 17:33
schrieb Fred Pettersson:</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">Look I don't
wanna start a fire here and have full
respect for the team behind FreeSWITCH.
<br>
<br>
It's 2018 right? I am talking about
Evolution. Why doesn't the FreeSWITCH
community have a more up to date online
community board? I am talking about the
mailing lists, why not use a tool to
help the community a bit more and make
it grow?<br>
<br>
Today I think it's hard to get a view of
all the questions/answers and the
mailing list archive is not that user
friendly. If people more easy can
search/browse for answers then less
questions will be generated. I don't see
a big and viable community as FreeSWITCH
deserves IMO and I am certain of getting
a online community board will increase
the community in that sense. This is one
of the first things I look for when
getting a new component or trying to
find help. I am still a beginner of
FreeSWITCH even though I've followed the
project for years and I know a community
board would help me and most likely
others.
<br>
<br>
It's easy to scope/categorize the
content of a community board and to
allow certain discussions of possible
configuration errors vs bugs etc, as a
novice like my self I have a hard time
to spot this and when I read answers
like "bugs are not to discussed on the
list - file a Jira". If you, like me,
don't even know if this is a mistake by
myself and get this kind of answer I
really hesitate to ask.<br>
<br>
All I want is the best for FreeSWITCH.
What do you think? <br>
<br>
/Fred</span></p>
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OpenTelecom.IT</font></span><br>
<span>cell: +39 347 266 56 18<span><font
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://confluence.freeswitch.org">http://confluence.freeswitch.org</a>
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