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<p>Simple,</p>
<p>all major unlimited funds crops who created the internet bubble
since 1999</p>
<p>offered all their services for free, making users forget that
there is always</p>
<p>a baker in front of the oven making the bread every morning....
very sad and disrespectful<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 12:55 PM, fs <span
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">* I might
very well go outside the intended purpose with this list,<br>
* in which case I apologize! You can remove it with my
blessing.<br>
* The Biz list appears to not be in use.<br>
* I just see that we all want to be successful with
Freeswitch<br>
* and many want to make a living with it, thus:<br>
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How do you make a good living from Open Source Software
with, for<br>
example, Freeswitch? (Staying away from promoting any
business, but<br>
sharing valuable experiences.)<br>
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What works for you and what does not work for you?<br>
<br>
I've been operating for years and give away a lot of my time
to both<br>
potential clients as well as paid clients. My product is not
yet changed<br>
to using Freeswitch but I'm working on it. Generally my rule
is that if<br>
I can do something verbally without using my computer I help
them. In<br>
other words they don't have to be afraid of talking with me.<br>
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But there's also a technical limit on how far I go. It needs
to be a<br>
fairly simple thing, such as on a heavily loaded server use
RAID 10 and<br>
SAS drives. That security is a vital consideration and why,
including<br>
some pointers on how to implement that. My thought on it is
that if my<br>
clients cannot stay in business I won't have any clients.
And I do care.<br>
I'm also the happiest when I have helped someone win.<br>
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Not that simple, rule wise, but I strike a balance. A good
paying client<br>
receives more free service than one that does not. I'm also
taking into<br>
consideration their attitude, which leads me to a huge
point. A client<br>
who does not assume full responsibility for his business and
equipment<br>
and is looking for some scapegoat to blame, I drop.<br>
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In ten years I've only had four refund requests and they
were all well<br>
serviced beyond what they paid for, for example I spent two
hours<br>
helping a guy to get in and change the Linux root password.
He kept<br>
saying "Maybe I should not be in this business." After two
hours I said<br>
"Yes, maybe you should not, I think he was trying to use my
willingness<br>
to help. But the bottom line was he was not willing to be
responsible<br>
for his server, and could not write down and enter the same
password<br>
twice, and needed someone to blame when he screwed it up.
Which he did<br>
nonstop.<br>
<br>
As a generality small business eat up your time and large
ones expect to<br>
pay. When I depend on someone servicing the product I got
from them I<br>
insist on paying as I need them to remain in business.<br>
<br>
When you use Paypal, add a function that adds the IP address
of the<br>
buyer, this way when their CC company are told they did not
authorize<br>
the purchase you can show the IP that was used. PP have
always gone to<br>
bat for me when I get a refund request as they have all been
scams and I<br>
could show it. However, if they used a CC then the CC
company makes the<br>
final decision on the refund.<br>
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fs<br>
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