<div dir="ltr">Yes, Mike, they're NAT'ing the public IP addresses. So, there are 2 NATs to reach the public IP network.<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>/Nandy</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Michael Jerris <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mike@jerris.com" target="_blank">mike@jerris.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto">They are natting one set of their public addresses to another?</div><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 1:07 AM Tihomir Culjaga <<a href="mailto:tculjaga@gmail.com" target="_blank">tculjaga@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>yes, they are using these ranges for CGN</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 August 2017 at 04:15, Michael Jerris <span><<a href="mailto:mike@jerris.com" target="_blank">mike@jerris.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">is that <span style="color:rgb(6,134,88);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">OPTIMA-TELEKOM</span><div><br></div><div>if so, that is their ip block…</div><div><div class="m_-1665983914836242377m_3987252280568803877h5"><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Aug 2, 2017, at 2:27 AM, Tihomir Culjaga <<a href="mailto:tculjaga@gmail.com" target="_blank">tculjaga@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-1665983914836242377m_3987252280568803877m_-6310992632991195936Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div>another carrier is using :=)<div>89.201.184.0<div>89.201.185.0</div><div>89.201.186.0</div><div>89.201.187.0</div></div><div><br></div><div>this is just wrong ... :=)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 1 August 2017 at 22:01, Tihomir Culjaga <span><<a href="mailto:tculjaga@gmail.com" target="_blank">tculjaga@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>some private segment....10.x.x.x something on some carriers and 172.31.x.x on others<div><br></div><div>no idea about others</div></div><div class="m_-1665983914836242377m_3987252280568803877m_-6310992632991195936HOEnZb"><div class="m_-1665983914836242377m_3987252280568803877m_-6310992632991195936h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 1 August 2017 at 14:26, Brian West <span><<a href="mailto:brian@freeswitch.org" target="_blank">brian@freeswitch.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto">What IP range did they use for CGNAT?</div><div><div class="m_-1665983914836242377m_3987252280568803877m_-6310992632991195936m_1803904570601369112h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 9:23 PM Nandy Dagondon <<a href="mailto:nandy1925@gmail.com" target="_blank">nandy1925@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>My Internet provider just implemented CGN. So, my WAN IP is no longer public. With CGN, NAT is setup for outbound packets initiated from my end. But for inbound packets, when remote Vertp clients connect to my FS, CGN blocks them. Therefore, I can no longer experiment with Verto. <div><br></div><div>That's why I need to try TURN/ICE service which is open to public to relay media to my FS. I understand STUN can only help in signalling.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the additional inputs.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_-1665983914836242377m_3987252280568803877m_-6310992632991195936m_1803904570601369112m_-7449458713720335678m_-1890732557483397505gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>/Nandy</div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Tihomir Culjaga <span><<a href="mailto:tculjaga@gmail.com" target="_blank">tculjaga@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>TURN helps in Symmetric NAT scenarios only<div><br></div><div>you should always try to get a direct connection first ( using STUN ) and if everything else fails, you can use TURN.</div><div><br></div><div>to check your NAT type, you can use stunclient program from <a href="http://stunprotocol.org/" target="_blank">stunprotocol.org</a></div><div><br></div><div>e.g.: /stunclient --mode full <a href="http://stun.ekiga.net/" target="_blank">stun.ekiga.net</a> 3479<br></div></div><div class="m_-1665983914836242377m_3987252280568803877m_-6310992632991195936m_1803904570601369112m_-7449458713720335678m_-1890732557483397505HOEnZb"><div class="m_-1665983914836242377m_3987252280568803877m_-6310992632991195936m_1803904570601369112m_-7449458713720335678m_-1890732557483397505h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 31 July 2017 at 02:44, Brian West <span><<a href="mailto:brian@freeswitch.org" target="_blank">brian@freeswitch.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto">What issue are you trying to solve with turn? </div><div><div class="m_-1665983914836242377m_3987252280568803877m_-6310992632991195936m_1803904570601369112m_-7449458713720335678m_-1890732557483397505m_7980188273069100922h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 1:42 AM Tihomir Culjaga <<a href="mailto:tculjaga@gmail.com" target="_blank">tculjaga@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><br></div><div>FS doesn't use turn... but verto client can use it if you pass the parameter in init function ... like that:</div><div><br></div><div><div> iceServers: [</div><div> {url: 'turn:<a href="http://numb.viagenie.ca/" target="_blank">numb.viagenie.ca</a>',<wbr>credential: 'pass', username: 'user'},</div><div> {url: 'stun:<a href="http://ripslinger.undo.it/" target="_blank">ripslinger.undo.it</a>',},</div><div> {url: 'stun:<a href="http://stun.schlund.de/" target="_blank">stun.schlund.de</a>',},</div><div> {url: 'stun:<a href="http://stun.ekiga.net/" target="_blank">stun.ekiga.net</a>',},</div><div> {url: 'stun:<a href="http://stun01.sipphone.com/" target="_blank">stun01.sipphone.com</a>',},</div><div> ],</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 28 July 2017 at 15:54, Brian West <span><<a href="mailto:brian@freeswitch.org" target="_blank">brian@freeswitch.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>TURN is not needed with FreeSWITCH, plus we do not support it.<div><br></div><div>/b</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_-1665983914836242377m_3987252280568803877m_-6310992632991195936m_1803904570601369112m_-7449458713720335678m_-1890732557483397505m_7980188273069100922m_8487635298704967928m_-1147976879708459747h5">On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Nandy Dagondon <span><<a href="mailto:nandy1925@gmail.com" target="_blank">nandy1925@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_-1665983914836242377m_3987252280568803877m_-6310992632991195936m_1803904570601369112m_-7449458713720335678m_-1890732557483397505m_7980188273069100922m_8487635298704967928m_-1147976879708459747h5"><div>Hi folks,<div><br></div><div>I just learned that our Internet provider implemented CGN when I'm about to experiment WebRTC/mod_verto. I already signed up a free TURN server account at <a href="http://numb.viagenie.ca/" target="_blank">http://numb.viagenie.ca/</a> to proceed. Where do I place turn:<a href="http://numb.viagenie.ca/" target="_blank">numb.viagenie.ca</a> in the config files? Is this correct?</div><div><br></div><div>sip_profiles/external.xml:</div><div><param name="ext-rtp-ip" value="turn:<a href="http://numb.viagenie.ca/" target="_blank">numb.viagenie.ca</a>"/<wbr>></div><div><div><param name="ext-sip-ip" value="turn:<a href="http://numb.viagenie.ca/" target="_blank">numb.viagenie.ca</a>"/<wbr>></div></div><span class="m_-1665983914836242377m_3987252280568803877m_-6310992632991195936m_1803904570601369112m_-7449458713720335678m_-1890732557483397505m_7980188273069100922m_8487635298704967928m_-1147976879708459747m_-2709144104311559632HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>/Nandy</div></font></span></div>
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