<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I disagree… plenty of situations where you have a known quality leg to a provider over g711, and a uncontrolled internet leg to customer that you want to use opus/fec for.<div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 1, 2017, at 4:07 PM, Colin Morelli <<a href="mailto:colin.morelli@gmail.com" class="">colin.morelli@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Raul, I'm sure the OP was referring to 30% packet loss with FEC, which opus can turn back into a usable audio stream. You'll absolutely notice artifacts in the audio, and you'd clearly identify something is wrong, but it's a heck of a lot better than 30% packet loss without FEC.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Colton,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Freeswitch supports opus, yes. I'd be curious to know why you want to transcode between opus and G.711, unless your endpoints don't support G.711 though. Yes, FEC can help you with packet loss on one end, but if your packet loss is on the G.711 end, then you're SOL anyway, so it seems pointless to do this unless you can use opus all the way though.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As to how it will sound if doing the conversion, well, you're transcoding from one lossy codec to another lossy codec. The end result will be audio that will not sound as good as if it were just encoded in G.711 to begin with. Remember, the nature of lossy codecs is that they're, well, lossy. You can't make a G.711 stream sound better by re-encoding it to opus. Once it's encoded in G.711, that information is lost.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As for CPU usage, opus is not particularly cheap. Transcoding + resampling (if required), will considerably limit the number of concurrent calls your FS instance can handle. Actual results are going to depend on a number of factors that make it infeasible to talk about it. But again, you probably don't want to be transcoding between these two codecs unless you absolutely have two (i.e. you can't get the two endpoints to otherwise agree on a codec). You're not going to gain any real advantage from doing this.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best,</div><div class="">Colin</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Raúl Alexis Betancor Santana <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:rbetancor@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">rbetancor@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">30% of packet loss ... are you mad? ... there is no way any codec could recover from that. Most of codecs, you will notice whenever you have more than 1-3% packet loss ... 30% ? ... really? ... should sound like and old synthetizer</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div class=""><div class="h5">2017-05-01 20:03 GMT+01:00 Colton Conor <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:colton.conor@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">colton.conor@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br class=""></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr" class="">Does freeswitch support transcoding from OPUS to G711? How well does this work in theory? Having full HD come in via OPUS from the phone, and then transcoding to crappy G711. Does it sound funny? <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We are thinking that OPUS has superior audio quality, and can withstand up to 30 percent packet loss without any audio distorition. However, I would say the majority of our users calls as still to the PSTN which only speaks G711.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">How much processing power would it take to transcode from OPUS to G711?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">How well is the OPUS codec implemented on newer IP phones?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I hear the Yealink supports OPUS with their new S line of phones, but I also heard they pulled support for it?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Polycom seems to only support it on the VVX 500 and VVX 600, but you have to disable video according to the 5.4 release notes. OPUS must be processor intensive I assume if it can't run OPUS and video at the same time. Have any idea if the newer VVX, like the 411, 501, and 601 have this same limitation? I know they have faster processors and ram.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div>
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