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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>That is the reason we are using RFC.2833 for call setup (going through our prompts + digits establishes the call). That guarantees that we connect.<br>We save BW by releasing media when possible. When INFO is working (and that is a big amount of our calls), the mid-call feature is provided.<br>We found that it's not the just ORDER that might not work (we don't care much about order) but it might never arrive. <br>Some carriers don't support it, most don't guarantee it end-to-end.<br><br>Now how do I get this working without the kindness of carriers?<br>I'm re-building our DEV environments and due to some equipment limitations, I can't bring in a trunk for testing only (trunk cost, sbc cost, etc).<br>Willing to build something as a managed mini-app. Asking the community first.<br><br>Again, this is not a PROD but a DEV problem. I can hack it. But I need it, otherwise we have no way to test some features before releasing them.<br><br>THX a lot!<br>A.C.<br><br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: brian@freeswitch.org<br>Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 23:12:56 -0600<br>CC: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org<br>To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org<br>Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Can FS PBX send DTMF(INFO and RFC.2833) on receiving DTMF(INFO or RFC.2833)?<br><br><div>Fun part of INFO is order in not guaranteed ;)<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Mar 5, 2014, at 7:38 PM, Adelia C. <<a href="mailto:hexade@hotmail.com">hexade@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote><div>
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<div dir="ltr">Sorry for the spam Brian, but here is the answer to your question: for active calls, we release the media to the cloud whenever possible (so no rtp or rtpeven, just sip to our system). We provide a mid-call feature that detects DTMF from users even when media is released to the cloud. We count on SIP INFO for this feature.<br>We do a lot of DTMF processing during call establishment as well and that is rtpevent driven.<br><br><br><div><hr id="ecxstopSpelling">From: <a href="mailto:hexade@hotmail.com">hexade@hotmail.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org">freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 19:27:38 -0500<br>Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Can FS PBX send DTMF(INFO and RFC.2833) on receiving DTMF(INFO or RFC.2833)?<br><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Btw, Brian, I am fully aware that this is not a desired behavior, but I would have to overhaul a bigger system (including lots of Q.E testing) to fix it on our side.<br>Big impact, otherwise I would do it, not look outside of the system for a hack.<br>Thanks for your help.<br>A.C.<br><br><div><hr id="ecxstopSpelling">From: <a href="mailto:hexade@hotmail.com">hexade@hotmail.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org">freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 19:17:59 -0500<br>Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Can FS PBX send DTMF(INFO and RFC.2833) on receiving DTMF(INFO or RFC.2833)?<br><br>
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<div dir="ltr">I know it usually is one or the other but that's how one of our legacy server pair works. I wouldn't ask for it if I wouldn't need it.<br>Is there a way I can get this working from the FS PBX side? <br>Thank you.<br>A.C.<br><br><div>From: <a href="mailto:brian@freeswitch.org">brian@freeswitch.org</a><br>Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 17:20:50 -0600<br>To: <a href="mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org">freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Can FS PBX send DTMF(INFO and RFC.2833) on receiving DTMF(INFO or RFC.2833)?<br><br><pre>Thats only for reception. Notice 'My SIP trunk needs DTMF as SIP INFO **AND** RFC.2833.’, Why do you need to send both?<br> <br>--<br>Brian West<br><a href="mailto:brian@freeswitch.org">brian@freeswitch.org</a><br>FreeSWITCH Solutions, LLC<br>PO BOX 2531<br>Brookfield, WI 53008-2531<br>Twitter: @FreeSWITCH , @briankwest<br><a href="http://www.freeswitchbook.com" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitchbook.com</a><br><a href="http://www.freeswitchcookbook.com" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitchcookbook.com</a><br> <br>T: +1.918.420.9001 | F: +1.918.420.9002 | M: +1.918.424.WEST<br>iNUM: +883 5100 1420 9001<br>ISN: 410*543<br>Skype:briankwest<br>PGP Key: <a href="http://www.bkw.org/key.txt" target="_blank">http://www.bkw.org/key.txt</a> (AB93356707C76CED)<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br>On Mar 5, 2014, at 3:18 PM, DJB International <<a href="mailto:djbinter@gmail.com">djbinter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> <br>> <param name="liberal-dtmf" value="true"/><br>> <br>> <br>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Adelia C. <<a href="mailto:hexade@hotmail.com">hexade@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> Looks like every free SIP soft phone out there is doing DTMF as SIP INFO **OR** RFC.2833.<br>> <br>> I configured a FreeSwitch PBX that sends my calls out to my network over a SIP trunk. My SIP trunk needs DTMF as SIP INFO **AND** RFC.2833. This is important for some mid-call features we offer.<br>> <br>> Can I configure FS to output both INFO and RFC.2833 when receiving INFO or RFC.2833? <br>> In the reverse direction, can FS accept both INFO and RFC.2833 (i.e. react on both)?<br>> <br>> Thank you!<br>> A.C.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> _________________________________________________________________________<br>> Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services:<br>> <a href="mailto:consulting@freeswitch.org">consulting@freeswitch.org</a><br>> <a href="http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com</a><br>> <br>> FreeSWITCH-powered IP PBX: The CudaTel Communication Server<br>> <a href="http://www.cudatel.com" target="_blank">http://www.cudatel.com</a><br>> <br>> Official FreeSWITCH Sites<br>> <a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>> <a href="http://wiki.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://wiki.freeswitch.org</a><br>> <a href="http://www.cluecon.com" target="_blank">http://www.cluecon.com</a><br>> <br>> FreeSWITCH-users mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org">FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users</a><br>> UNSUBSCRIBE:<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users</a><br>> <a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>> <br>> <br>> _________________________________________________________________________<br>> Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services:<br>> <a href="mailto:consulting@freeswitch.org">consulting@freeswitch.org</a><br>> <a href="http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com</a><br>> <br>> FreeSWITCH-powered IP PBX: The CudaTel Communication Server<br>> <a href="http://www.cudatel.com" target="_blank">http://www.cudatel.com</a><br>> <br>> Official FreeSWITCH Sites<br>> <a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>> <a href="http://wiki.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://wiki.freeswitch.org</a><br>> <a href="http://www.cluecon.com" target="_blank">http://www.cluecon.com</a><br>> <br>> FreeSWITCH-users mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org">FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users</a><br>> UNSUBSCRIBE:<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users</a><br>> <a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br> <br></pre><br>_________________________________________________________________________
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