<div dir="ltr">Haha yeah, had a few run-ins with x-on in the past, fun times :P<div><br></div><div>Let us know how you get on - and feel free to join in on the Friday conference call, there's always people there happy to give their two cents.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Cal</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Callum Guy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:callum.guy@x-on.co.uk" target="_blank">callum.guy@x-on.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><div class="gmail_default">
Thanks Dan - it'll take me a while to digest the docs on your website, and i'm actually watching your screencast on youtube at the moment to try and get a feel for the systems features and how it might integrate.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default">Also thanks for your response Cal, the self build would indeed be my preferred choice. In all honesty i'm mailing for my own interest at this time so i should probably have remembered to send from my personal address.. Highly amused by "<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">X-on finally realized their systems need upgrading huh? ;)</span>" - have you dealt with my employer before?! X-on are, of course, always upgrading our systems.</div>
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<br><br></div><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On 30 January 2014 14:57, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk" target="_blank">cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Callum,<div><br></div><div>X-on finally realized their systems need upgrading huh? ;)</div><div><br>
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<div>I spent some time researching this after I found FS, and quickly came to the conclusion that building our own was pretty much the best way forward if you want full control. There are tons of options out there, the only one that even came close to what we wanted was ITSPtec, and even that wasn't very good.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If you have a talented team of in-house programmers, then build your own and be prepared to spend 6 months minimum before you have anything close to a working beta. There are several ways you can do this, but seriously this is not a small task and there are an unbelievable amount of things to take into consideration.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If you want something out of the door quickly, review the features/pros/cons of each available solution and decide which one best fits your needs.</div><span><font color="#888888"><div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Callum Guy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:callum.guy@x-on.co.uk" target="_blank">callum.guy@x-on.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Thanks Avi, that looks like a neat little solution for billing. Unfortunately my requirements are for pre and post-pay billing and rating so i'm looking for options for a comprehensive package. </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7,55,99)">I'm having a good look at the products listed on the wiki page <a href="http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Billing_Solutions" target="_blank">http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Billing_Solutions</a> of which ASTPP looks the best so far but i'm not finding answers in the documentation so i'm reaching out to the community for peoples experience.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Thanks again</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 30 January 2014 11:36, Avi Marcus <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avi@avimarcus.net" target="_blank">avi@avimarcus.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">I ended up writing my own rating system...<div><br><div>It sets the rate before hand, has a channel limit per account, and will schedule a cutoff when the balance reaches 0.</div><div>It's not perfect for pre-bill (when you allow multiple channels and it's near 0 balance) but it's pretty good and has a full trail in the CDRs (as long as nothing crashes...)</div>
<div><pre><pre><action application="log" data="DEBUG Setting user outbound channel limit to 3."/>
<action application="limit" data="hash outbound 1435 3"/>
<action application="log" data="DEBUG Remaining for 1 channel: 543 minutes - 32597 seconds."/>
<action application="export" data="nolocal:api_on_answer=sched_transfer +32597 ${uuid} cutoff_incall"/></pre></pre></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">-Avi</span></div>
</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Callum Guy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:callum.guy@x-on.co.uk" target="_blank">callum.guy@x-on.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Hi All,</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7,55,99)">
<br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7,55,99)">I have been looking at some options for handling pre and post pay billing operations and wanted to ask the community for any feedback they might have.</div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7,55,99)">The obvious starting choice would be mod_nibblebill however i am unclear about the maturity of this module and its flexibility with ever changing rates and destinations, although I could probably work around it if stable. Part of me also wonders if inclusion of billing in heartbeat events is going to affect performance at peak times.</div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Another option being considered is the following and i'd be keen to hear from anyone with experience of this software:</div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br></div><div><font color="#073763" face="verdana, sans-serif"><a href="http://portaone.com/portabilling/" target="_blank">http://portaone.com/portabilling/</a></font><br>
</div><div><font color="#073763" face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#073763" face="verdana, sans-serif">It offers complete pre and post pay billing solution via radius, sounds like a clean and simple implementation but i'm struggling to anyone who has used it for a realistic review!</font></div>
<div><font color="#073763" face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#073763" face="verdana, sans-serif">Thanks,</font></div><div><font color="#073763" face="verdana, sans-serif"><br>
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