<div dir="ltr">Just curious where you guys see AQL fitting in that categorisation? I&#39;ve used them in the past and they seem good. I also thought they were one of the bigger providers in the UK, but since no-one has mentioned them...</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 29 October 2013 07:39, Andrew Cassidy <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:andrew@cassidywebservices.co.uk" target="_blank">andrew@cassidywebservices.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I think the point to be made here is that your choice should be determined by your requirements and budget. As we know neither of those, we can&#39;t give you specific recommendations.<div>
<br></div><div>The majority of people I encounter use &#39;consumer&#39; grade services, with or without their own equipment as necessary. That said these are largely small businesses.</div>
<div><br></div><div>In all seriousness there&#39;s always a best tool for the job and no one service that&#39;ll meet all needs.</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On 29 October 2013 08:42, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk" target="_blank">cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Let&#39;s be clear on definitions here;<div><br></div><div>BT, Kingston - Top of the food chain, only financially viable for those with lots of cash and traffic</div>

<div>Magrathea, Simwood, Gamma  - Designed for wholesale, scalable to many millions of minutes per month.</div>
<div>SipGate, SureVoip, Gradwell, GBC - These providers are designed for consumers, only necessary if you are not running your own equipment</div><div>NumberGroup, Sol4 - they are essentially a reseller aggregate, or to be more blunt, an unnecessary middleman</div>


<div><br></div><div>If someone is running their own switch, why would you want to go with a consumer grade service which not only limits your CLI capabilities, but also increases complexity, affects latency and inflates call rates. Likewise, why would you go through a middleman when you could just go direct to the supplier with no minimum spend on outbound traffic? Though typically inbound does require a small min spend of around £50/month (which is tiny in comparison with VoxBone who charge a min spend of around £600/month [needs clarification]), which is really the only valid reason (that I can think of right now) to go with any of these reseller aggregates.</div>

<span><font color="#888888">
<div><br></div><div>Cal</div></font></span><div><div><div><br></div><div><div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Andrew Cassidy <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:andrew@cassidywebservices.co.uk" target="_blank">andrew@cassidywebservices.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Magrathea are pretty much the industry standard for volume.<div>


<br></div><div>Depending on your requirements, there are many others such as SipGate and Gradwell. There are also people from at least 3 UK trunk providers in this list, including SureVoip, NumberGroup and PowerTel. </div>



</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 29 October 2013 00:29, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk" target="_blank">cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>



<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Richard,<br>
<br>
This topic was discussed a few months back, you can read the thread here;<br>
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<br>
Since my last post, our chosen UK providers are Magrathea and Simwood.<br>
<br>
This inter-op was over a period of 6 months but based on low traffic<br>
(&lt;=500 calls a month), so others with higher throughput may wish to<br>
chime in.<br>
<br>
Magrathea - Over a period of one month, I&#39;ve not had a single<br>
problematic call, routing/quality is always good, and they seem to<br>
have almost every dialing code possible for DIDs. I have not dealt<br>
with their technical staff yet, but their sales people were friendly<br>
and knowledgeable.<br>
<br>
Simwood - Over a period of two months, I had 2 call routing issues to<br>
international destinations and they are missing at least one number<br>
range (Bournemouth). However it&#39;s worth noting that Simwood were very<br>
quick to help, they identified the routing problem within 5 minutes of<br>
me reporting it, and despite being a low profit customer they treated<br>
us as a high priority. I&#39;ve also spoken to numerous staff there, they<br>
always come across as friendly and, more importantly, competent. I<br>
would have no problem recommending Simwood to others.<br>
<br>
For international routing - I&#39;m still in the process of reviewing<br>
TelServ and Flowroute, I&#39;d like to use Voxbone but their min spend is<br>
too high for us.<br>
<br>
I cannot choose between Sim/Mag, they are both extremely good<br>
companies - use both (redundancy is a good thing anyway!)<br>
<br>
Cal<br>
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&gt; Hi,<br>
&gt; Can anyone recommend any SIP trunk providers, ideally based in the UK?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Richard<br>
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