<p dir="ltr">Not much better of a response.<br>
</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 15, 2013 12:17 PM, "Florian Lohoff" <<a href="mailto:f@zz.de">f@zz.de</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Hola,<br>
<br>
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 04:13:52PM -0500, Anthony Minessale wrote:<br>
> Maybe if you didn't phrase it like a complaint it would be more meaningful<br>
> but it reads as though you are mad that you had to do work to debug your<br>
> issue in our software for your paying customer. I find the message<br>
> offensive and had to resist less polite responses that came to mind.<br>
<br>
Commit messages containing bug ids are nice to track which commit closes<br>
a bug - but are not helpful in finding changed behaviour.<br>
<br>
And looking at every individual diff or every individual ticket is<br>
impossible without deep understanding of the full inner workings. So it<br>
might be possible for you - its impossible for the rest of us. Thats the<br>
point i am trying to make - For ME the changelog entrys are useless and<br>
i made a point why.<br>
<br>
I dont care if you as the developers change - discuss - or think about<br>
it. We are not using freeswitch - we are just technicians trying to<br>
solve problems around us.<br>
<br>
The development style of freeswitch makes it hard to follow changes and<br>
debug behaviour.<br>
<br>
In our internal git trees we have a bug id/ticket number + short<br>
explanation in the shortlog and sometimes full email conversations in<br>
commit messages for reference purposes. So when we change ticket systems<br>
we dont devaluate our commit logs.<br>
<br>
Flo<br>
PS: It wasnt a paying customer - just a helpless one with error logs<br>
contain 500 responses to SIP re REGISTERs of his CPEs we as an ISP<br>
connect to the network - so before ranting its not our business i was<br>
trying to answer with helpful content.<br>
--<br>
Florian Lohoff <a href="mailto:f@zz.de">f@zz.de</a><br>
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