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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">The problem is that the attitude is
      then "Oh gee, a bunch of places out there are using a *known*
      insecure system as an authentication mechanism, therefore we
      should break all the use cases for such capability".&nbsp; Let's not
      forget that on POTS lines you could still fake the caller id
      number at least by injecting your own signal on the line.&nbsp; I know
      I'm probably tilting at windmills here, but I've had too many
      legitimate uses broken by providers that wouldn't allow you to
      forward that information along.<br>
      <br>
      -Yossi<br>
      <br>
      On 07/12/2013 02:11 PM, Steven Ayre wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAFiqYu=ydfQKcU1PbZk92==z-MtQK4BOEbP=UUFrKmwaruS_bw@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">It's all about Caller ID spoofing. If you are allowed
      to send anything you could abuse that, and since there are plenty
      of services that use Caller ID from the PSTN for authentication
      that could be a problem.
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      <div>Wholesale carriers might allow it between themselves
        (trusted), but it would be undesirable to allow it for
        end-users.</div>
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      <div>If you actually own the number (such as with DIDs) then
        that's a slightly more specific case. If you could prove
        ownership to Y &amp; Z and they had a configurable whitelist
        then they might be able to add them to the list since they can
        then trust you for those numbers, but they couldn't do that for
        any random number you might send.</div>
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      <div>Proving ownership (and that you still own it) wouldn't be a
        very simple task to handle securely though?</div>
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      <div>-Steve</div>
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          On 12 July 2013 14:41, Ken Rice <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:krice@freeswitch.org"
              target="_blank">krice@freeswitch.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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                  style="font-size:11pt">I tend to disagree with that
                  comment about a decent operator... I find the opposite
                  to be true... If you have DIDs from say Carrier X, and
                  you want your calls to be able to go out Carriers Y
                  &amp; Z and you don&#8217;t have any DIDs with carrier Y
                  &amp; Z how are you supposed to terminate with them...
                  Even better you have a few DIDs with all of them, you
                  should be able to send CLID for any of your DIDs out
                  any of your carriers... <br>
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                      On 7/12/13 12:46 AM, "Yehavi Bourvine" &lt;<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://yehavi.bourvine@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank">yehavi.bourvine@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                      wrote:<br>
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                        style="font-size:11pt">I have a similar problem.
                        I set the callerID to the user's extension, so
                        he knows this is a forwarded call. <br>
                        <br>
                        A decent operator won't accept a callerID not
                        fron your range. I guess you understand why.<br>
                        <br>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Yehaci.<br>
                        <br>
                        &#1489;&#1514;&#1488;&#1512;&#1497;&#1498; 12 &#1489;&#1497;&#1493;&#1500; 2013 07:47, &#1502;&#1488;&#1514; "Shishko" &lt;<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://shishko69@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank">shishko69@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<br>
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                          style="font-size:11pt">Hi,<br>
                          <br>
                          when a user redirects its phone to mobile
                          number, ITSP rejects call because caller id is
                          not in our range of numbers. If I change CID
                          to one of our numbers, call is accepted, but
                          users would like to see original CID .<br>
                          Is there a way I could deflect a call to ITSP
                          so user could see original caller id?<br>
                          <br>
                          Thanks,<br>
                          <br>
                          Denis<br>
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