<div dir="ltr">What&#39;s the worst that can happen? You get a few more customers? XD</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 9 June 2013 22:41, Avi Marcus <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:avi@avimarcus.net" target="_blank">avi@avimarcus.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hmm, did not intend that email to go to the list. Too late.<div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">-Avi</font></span><div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:22 AM, Avi Marcus <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:avi@avimarcus.net" target="_blank">avi@avimarcus.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div dir="ltr">Term: 6/6 billing.<div>Israel fixed: 0.0085 (flowroute charges $0.0105 <a href="http://www.flowroute.com/services/rates/" target="_blank">http://www.flowroute.com/services/rates/</a>)</div><div>Israel Mobiles: 0.04 (flowroute charges 0.0473)</div>



<div><br></div><div>There&#39;s no CLI on fixed, which is the norm...</div><div>Prices are subject to change, if my prices change. Fixed shouldn&#39;t move up much, and mobiles shouldn&#39;t ever go up (recent telecom laws push the mobile prices down).</div>



<div><br></div><div>Origination:</div><div>This is trickier to price. And for the calling card there&#39;s an issue....</div><div><br></div><div>The most reliable carrier I have *unfortunately* still cannot figure out why there&#39;s duplicate rfc2833 + inband DTMF. FS doesn&#39;t seem to have a way to squelch the inband and every few calls actually don&#39;t  have the inband so I can&#39;t even strip the rfc2833.</div>



<div>The other carrier I have doesn&#39;t have this issue, but does have downtime every so often...</div><div><br></div><div>Having indband DTMF doesn&#39;t really bother freeswitch, but if you bridge the call though as you always do on a calling card, if they need to enter more DTMF the remote end sometimes processes both the RFC2833 and the inband, resulting in double dtmf.</div>



<div>For a calling card this isn&#39;t really helpful, actually. My calling cards runs on this main carrier. For dialing DTMF, I tell them to use the backup number from the other carrier.</div><div>Unfortunately, everyone else seems ridiculously expensive - e.g. bezeq international or really horrible quality, e.g. DIDWW.</div>



<div>I doubt you really want this issue, but it&#39;s the best <i>overall voice quality </i>that I&#39;ve found.</div><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div><br></div></font></span><div><div><span><font color="#888888"><div>


<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">-Avi Marcus</span><br>
BestFone<br><span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="tel:1-718-989-9485" value="+17189899485" target="_blank">1-718-989-9485</a> (USA)</span><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>


</font><div><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="tel:1-866-202-5850" value="+18662025850" target="_blank">1-866-202-5850</a> (USA &amp; Canada Toll Free)</font><br>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></font><span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">02-372-</span><span style="line-height:15px;font-size:13px;white-space:pre-wrap;font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">1570</span><span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"> (Israel)<br>



</span><span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:small">020-3298-2875 (UK)</span></span></div></div></div></font></span><div><div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Moishe Grunstein <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:max@nysolutions.com" target="_blank">max@nysolutions.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">I would need both origination and termination, unless it is cheaper to use a US provider.<u></u><u></u></span></p>



<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">I sent a price quote for setting up a freeswitch/Fusion box to an Israeli based calling card operator looking to move to SIP. I can handle their US calls, I will however need Israeli channels too.<u></u><u></u></span></p>



<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>



<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333399">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333399"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>



<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333399">Moishe Grunstein<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333399">Tornado Computer Systems, Inc.<u></u><u></u></span></p>



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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> <a href="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Avi Marcus<br>



<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 09, 2013 4:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> FreeSWITCH Users Help<br><b>Subject:</b> spam&gt;spam&gt;Re: [Freeswitch-users] Israel SIP provider<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>



<div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Gill! Avi Marcus here...<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">Are you looking for term or origination? I can help you with either.<u></u><u></u></p>



<div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">As far as I&#39;ve seen, the voice quality on termination on &quot;premium&quot; routes, e.g. voxbeam&#39;s or net2phone&#39;s is basically fine. Just I&#39;ve had DTMF issues with some of them...<u></u><u></u></p>



</div><div><p class="MsoNormal">They don&#39;t have CLI to fixed, though, only to mobiles. I have a route that offers that, too.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">



I&#39;ve used origination from some companies and the quality is pretty pitiful... I have a better provider.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">-Avi Marcus</span><br>



BestFone<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Moishe Grunstein &lt;<a href="mailto:max@nysolutions.com" target="_blank">max@nysolutions.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>



<div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Can someone please recommend a reliable Israeli SIP provider? <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>



<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333399">Thanks,</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333399"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>



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