<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Thank all of you guys for incorporation, <br></div>@Steve, exactly as you said, they consider to use this technique in phone banking application.<br><br></div>BEST,<br>  <br></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 5:34 AM, Steve Underwood <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:steveu@coppice.org" target="_blank">steveu@coppice.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">On 06/03/2013 08:19 AM, James Cloos wrote:<br>
&gt; Goog found this:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href="http://enterprise.huawei.com/ilink/enenterprise/download/HW_U_149094" target="_blank">http://enterprise.huawei.com/ilink/enenterprise/download/HW_U_149094</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; which says:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ,----&lt; excerpt from HW_U_149094.pdf §35.3 &gt;<br>
&gt; | Huawei NGN Cipher Version1 (HNC1) is a patented algorithm of Huawei<br>
&gt; | and supports the 122/256-bit key.  In encryption, the softswitch<br>
&gt; | (SoftX3000) of Huawei is required to cooperate.  Currently, HNC1 is<br>
&gt; | used in the application scenarios in which the UA5000 works with the<br>
&gt; | SoftX3000.<br>
&gt; `----<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; It also says that those two products encrypt the rfc2833 traffic with<br>
&gt; that algorithm, w/o implying that it is part of 2833.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; As for why it is useful to encrypt the 2833 w/o also encrypting the<br>
&gt; voice, I can only speculate.  Perhaps some idiosyncrasy of PRC law?<br>
&gt; Or to provide better integrity?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -JimC<br>
</div>There is an excellent reason for encrypting DTMF, when encrypting the<br>
voice is unimportant. If you can compromise a gateway and pick out all<br>
the DTMF, you might have the ability to recover a lot of passwords used<br>
for things like phone banking. On the PSTN this kind of thing only<br>
really works with a focussed hardware attack on the lines to the banking<br>
system, but with VoIP any compromised node could be a problem.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Steve<br>
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