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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Done them!<br>
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cite="mid:CAKzWOxX1RcSKDwjsqwnXe6kMXOeQOg0c_awNwMZFMu904vxgMA@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">Alex,<br>
      <br>
      I suspect these pages would be a good place to start:<br>
      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/VAD_and_CNG">http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/VAD_and_CNG</a><br>
      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Variable_suppress_cng">http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Variable_suppress_cng</a><br>
      <br>
      -MC<br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Alex
        Lake <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:alex@digitalmail.com" target="_blank">alex@digitalmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
        wrote:<br>
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            <div>Ah! I think that has fixed it. Many thanks. I'll see if
              I can update a bit of wiki somewhere...<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">suppress_cng=true variable or&nbsp;supress-cng
                profile param set to true.<br>
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                <br>
                <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:44
                  AM, Alex Lake <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:alex@digitalmail.com" target="_blank">alex@digitalmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                  wrote:<br>
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                      <div>A quick update on this - I have verified that
                        suppresion of silence suppression(!) on
                        Grandstreams doesn't work when it is the B-Party
                        of a call. I'm not sure if silence-suppression
                        is part of the SIP handshake, but I know that
                        other VOIP technologies seem to be able to
                        prevent it.<br>
                        I'm calling in a handset specialist to advise..<br>
                        <br>
                        One of the things that intrigues me is this
                        extract from the log (particularly the reference
                        to silenceSupp):<br>
                        <br>
                        2013-02-27 17:28:05.151624 [DEBUG]
                        switch_core_codec.c:244 <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:sofia/internal/0253302@004-0253.sb12.dmclub.org"
                          target="_blank">sofia/internal/0253302@004-0253.sb12.dmclub.org</a>
                        Restore previous codec PCMA:8.<br>
                        2013-02-27 17:28:05.151624 [DEBUG]
                        mod_sofia.c:754 Local SDP <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:sofia/internal/0253302@004-0253.sb12.dmclub.org"
                          target="_blank">sofia/internal/0253302@004-0253.sb12.dmclub.org</a>:<br>
                        v=0<br>
                        o=FreeSWITCH 1361975871 1361975873 IN IP4
                        176.58.88.201<br>
                        s=FreeSWITCH<br>
                        c=IN IP4 176.58.88.201<br>
                        t=0 0<br>
                        m=audio 10212 RTP/AVP 8 101<br>
                        a=rtpmap:8 PCMA/8000<br>
                        a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000<br>
                        a=fmtp:101 0-16<br>
                        a=silenceSupp:off - - - -<br>
                        a=ptime:30<br>
                        a=sendrecv<br>
                        <br>
                        What does all this mean?<br>
                        <br>
                        From the "A" leg of the call (which is placed by
                        a LinkSys SPA922) I have:<br>
                        <br>
&lt;sip_local_sdp_str&gt;v%3D0%0Ao%3DFreeSWITCH%201361974765%201361974767%20IN%20IP4%20176.58.88.201%0As%3DFreeSWITCH%0Ac%3DIN%20IP4%20176.58.88.201%0At%3D0%200%0Am%3Daudio%2011468%20RTP/AVP%208%20101%0Aa%3Drtpmap%3A8%20PCMA/8000%0Aa%3Drtpmap%3A101%20telephone-event/8000%0Aa%3Dfmtp%3A101%200-16%0Aa%3DsilenceSupp%3Aoff%20-%20-%20-%20-%0Aa%3Dptime%3A30%0Aa%3Dsendrecv%0A&lt;/sip_local_sdp_str&gt;<br>
                        <br>
                        From the troublesome "B" leg of the call (placed
                        by FreeSwitch to my GXP2000) I have:<br>
                        <br>
sip_local_sdp_str&gt;v%3D0%0Ao%3DFreeSWITCH%201361974745%201361974746%20IN%20IP4%20176.58.88.201%0As%3DFreeSWITCH%0Ac%3DIN%20IP4%20176.58.88.201%0At%3D0%200%0Am%3Daudio%2011488%20RTP/AVP%208%20101%2013%0Aa%3Drtpmap%3A101%20telephone-event/8000%0Aa%3Dfmtp%3A101%200-16%0Aa%3Dptime%3A30%0Aa%3Dsendrecv%0Am%3Daudio%2011488%20RTP/AVP%208%203%20101%2013%0Aa%3Drtpmap%3A101%20telephone-event/8000%0Aa%3Dfmtp%3A101%200-16%0Aa%3Dptime%3A20%0Aa%3Dsendrecv%0A&lt;/sip_local_sdp_str&gt;<br>
                        <br>
                        I was wondering if there's a way I can modify
                        this to include a="silenceSupp:off - - - -" and
                        whether that would make the slightest bit of
                        difference to the handset's behaviour!<br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        Alex<br>
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                            <div>Thanks.<br>
                              I've been looking at the channel variables
                              of the call. And this is part of it:<br>
                              <br>
&lt;rtp_audio_in_raw_bytes&gt;1089091&lt;/rtp_audio_in_raw_bytes&gt;&lt;rtp_audio_in_media_bytes&gt;957212&lt;/rtp_audio_in_media_bytes&gt;&lt;rtp_audio_in_packet_count&gt;10344&lt;/rtp_audio_in_packet_count&gt;&lt;rtp_audio_in_media_packet_count&gt;5581&lt;/rtp_audio_in_media_packet_count&gt;&lt;rtp_audio_in_skip_packet_count&gt;5480&lt;/rtp_audio_in_skip_packet_count&gt;&lt;rtp_audio_in_jb_packet_count&gt;0&lt;/rtp_audio_in_jb_packet_count&gt;&lt;rtp_audio_in_dtmf_packet_count&gt;0&lt;/rtp_audio_in_dtmf_packet_count&gt;&lt;rtp_audio_in_cng_packet_count&gt;4323&lt;/rtp_audio_in_cng_packet_count&gt;&lt;rtp_audio_in_flush_packet_count&gt;440&lt;/rtp_audio_in_flush_packet_count&gt;&lt;rtp_audio_in_largest_jb_size&gt;0&lt;/rtp_audio_in_largest_jb_size&gt;&lt;rtp_audio_out_raw_bytes&gt;1829908&lt;/rtp_audio_out_raw_bytes&gt;&lt;rtp_audio_out_media_bytes&gt;1829908&lt;/rtp_audio_out_media_bytes&gt;&lt;rtp_audio_out_packet_count&gt;10639&lt;/rtp_audio_out_packet_count&gt;&lt;rtp_audio_out

_media_packet_count&gt;10639&lt;/rtp_audio_out_media_packet_count&gt;&lt;rtp_audio_out_skip_packet_count&gt;0&lt;/rtp_audio_out_skip_packet_count&gt;&lt;rtp_audio_out_dtmf_packet_count&gt;0&lt;/rtp_audio_out_dtmf_packet_count&gt;&lt;rtp_audio_out_cng_packet_count&gt;0&lt;/rtp_audio_out_cng_packet_count&gt;&lt;rtp_audio_rtcp_packet_count&gt;0&lt;/rtp_audio_rtcp_packet_count&gt;&lt;rtp_audio_rtcp_octet_count&gt;0&lt;/rtp_audio_rtcp_octet_count&gt;<br>
                              <br>
                              The thing that slightly concerns me here
                              is
&lt;rtp_audio_in_cng_packet_count&gt;4323&lt;/rtp_audio_in_cng_packet_count&gt;<br>
                              <br>
                              That sounds as though the inbound audio
                              path contains some comfort noise,
                              suggesting that the handset the other end
                              has some kind of silence suppression
                              enabled.<br>
                              <br>
                              I'm afraid it's a dreaded Grandstream
                              GXP2000 - which I know are not the handset
                              of the cognoscenti! - but the customer
                              tells me that he has silence suppression
                              disabled. Do we think this is correct?!<br>
                              <br>
                              Rgds,<br>
                              Alex<br>
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                            <blockquote type="cite">
                              <div dir="ltr">It does not send any by
                                default. &nbsp;Also, yes it only generates
                                silence when the call is not getting any
                                RTP.
                                <div><br>
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                              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                <br>
                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 26,
                                  2013 at 12:00 PM, Alex Lake <span
                                    dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:alex@digitalmail.com"
                                      target="_blank">alex@digitalmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                  wrote:<br>
                                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                    style="margin:0 0 0
                                    .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                                    solid;padding-left:1ex">Does
                                    Freeswitch enable any kind of
                                    silence suppression by default? If I<br>
                                    have
                                    bridge_generate_comfort_noise=true,
                                    does that only have an effect<br>
                                    when the audio-generating end
                                    decides to stop sending RTP?<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Any other tips for diagnosing
                                    silence (it's kind of like a slow
                                    noise<br>
                                    gate effect)?<br>
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                      href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org"
                      target="_blank">FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users"
                      target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users</a><br>
                    UNSUBSCRIBE:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users"
                      target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users</a><br>
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
                    <br>
                  </blockquote>
                </div>
                <br>
                <br clear="all">
                <div><br>
                </div>
                -- <br>
                Anthony Minessale II<br>
                <br>
                FreeSWITCH <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://www.freeswitch.org/" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org/</a><br>
                ClueCon <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://www.cluecon.com/" target="_blank">http://www.cluecon.com/</a><br>
                Twitter: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://twitter.com/FreeSWITCH_wire"
                  target="_blank">http://twitter.com/FreeSWITCH_wire</a><br>
                <br>
                AIM: anthm<br>
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:MSN%3Aanthony_minessale@hotmail.com"
                  target="_blank">MSN:anthony_minessale@hotmail.com</a><br>
                GTALK/JABBER/<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:PAYPAL%3Aanthony.minessale@gmail.com"
                  target="_blank">PAYPAL:anthony.minessale@gmail.com</a><br>
                IRC: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://irc.freenode.net" target="_blank">irc.freenode.net</a>
                #freeswitch<br>
                <br>
                FreeSWITCH Developer Conference<br>
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:sip%3A888@conference.freeswitch.org"
                  target="_blank">sip:888@conference.freeswitch.org</a><br>
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:googletalk%3Aconf%2B888@conference.freeswitch.org"
                  target="_blank">googletalk:conf+888@conference.freeswitch.org</a><br>
                pstn:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%2B19193869900"
                  value="+19193869900" target="_blank">+19193869900</a>
              </div>
              <br>
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              <br>
              <pre>_________________________________________________________________________
Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:consulting@freeswitch.org" target="_blank">consulting@freeswitch.org</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com</a>

FreeSWITCH-powered IP PBX: The CudaTel Communication Server
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.cudatel.com" target="_blank">http://www.cudatel.com</a>

Official FreeSWITCH Sites
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://wiki.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://wiki.freeswitch.org</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.cluecon.com" target="_blank">http://www.cluecon.com</a>

FreeSWITCH-users mailing list
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users</a>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a>
</pre>
              <br>
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              <br>
              <p color="#000000" align="left">No virus found in this
                message.<br>
                Checked by AVG - <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://www.avg.com" target="_blank">www.avg.com</a><br>
                Version: 2012.0.2238 / Virus Database: 2641/5636 -
                Release Date: 02/27/13</p>
            </blockquote>
            <br>
          </div>
          <br>
_________________________________________________________________________<br>
          Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services:<br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:consulting@freeswitch.org">consulting@freeswitch.org</a><br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com</a><br>
          <br>
          FreeSWITCH-powered IP PBX: The CudaTel Communication Server<br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.cudatel.com"
            target="_blank">http://www.cudatel.com</a><br>
          <br>
          Official FreeSWITCH Sites<br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.freeswitch.org"
            target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://wiki.freeswitch.org"
            target="_blank">http://wiki.freeswitch.org</a><br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.cluecon.com"
            target="_blank">http://www.cluecon.com</a><br>
          <br>
          FreeSWITCH-users mailing list<br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org">FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users"
            target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users</a><br>
          UNSUBSCRIBE:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users"
            target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users</a><br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.freeswitch.org"
            target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
          <br>
        </blockquote>
      </div>
      <br>
      <br clear="all">
      <br>
      -- <br>
      Michael S Collins<br>
      Twitter: @mercutioviz<br>
      <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.FreeSWITCH.org"
        target="_blank">http://www.FreeSWITCH.org</a><br>
      <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.ClueCon.com"
        target="_blank">http://www.ClueCon.com</a><br>
      <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.OSTAG.org"
        target="_blank">http://www.OSTAG.org</a><br>
      <br>
      <br>
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Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:consulting@freeswitch.org">consulting@freeswitch.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com">http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com</a>

FreeSWITCH-powered IP PBX: The CudaTel Communication Server
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cudatel.com">http://www.cudatel.com</a>

Official FreeSWITCH Sites
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.freeswitch.org">http://www.freeswitch.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.freeswitch.org">http://wiki.freeswitch.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cluecon.com">http://www.cluecon.com</a>

FreeSWITCH-users mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org">FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users</a>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.freeswitch.org">http://www.freeswitch.org</a>
</pre>
      <br>
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      <br>
      <p class="" avgcert""="" color="#000000" align="left">No virus
        found in this message.<br>
        Checked by AVG - <a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</a><br>
        Version: 2012.0.2238 / Virus Database: 2641/5638 - Release Date:
        02/28/13</p>
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