Bummer. Now we need to start collecting some appropriate backronyms for "AMR" and "AMR-WB".<br><br>-MC<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Ken Rice <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:krice@freeswitch.org" target="_blank">krice@freeswitch.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Actually its crazy rediculous... Companies like Sangoma cant even license<br>
it. That requirement for integrators isnt sangoma's, its VoiceAge's<br>
requirement<br>
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On 1/14/13 2:57 PM, "Kristian Kielhofner" <<a href="mailto:kris@kriskinc.com">kris@kriskinc.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> My understanding is that AMR licensing is even more ridiculous than G729.<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Steven Ayre <<a href="mailto:steveayre@gmail.com">steveayre@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Ah, damn you're right Kristian!<br>
>><br>
>> The data sheet<br>
>> <a href="http://sangoma.com/assets/docs/datasheets/en/d100.pdf" target="_blank">http://sangoma.com/assets/docs/datasheets/en/d100.pdf</a><br>
>> contains this footnode that is omitted from the web page:<br>
>><br>
>> "Except for AMR and AMR-WB. Integrators must clear patent license with<br>
>> VoiceAge Corp."<br>
>><br>
>> :(<br>
>><br>
>> In which case anyone obtaining licenses from VoiceAge Corp should be<br>
>> free to use them with any implementation...<br>
>><br>
>> I guess this is due to the same patent pool mess Mike mentioned?<br>
>><br>
>> -Steve<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 14 January 2013 20:34, Steven Ayre <<a href="mailto:steveayre@gmail.com">steveayre@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> "All codecs are fully indemnified; no additional licensing is required<br>
>>> for their use."<br>
>>> Source:<br>
>>> <a href="http://sangoma.com/products/media_processing/voice_transcoding_boards/d150.h" target="_blank">http://sangoma.com/products/media_processing/voice_transcoding_boards/d150.h</a><br>
>>> tml<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On 14 January 2013 19:58, Kristian Kielhofner <<a href="mailto:kris@kriskinc.com">kris@kriskinc.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> IIRC Sangoma doesn't provide licensing for AMR and AMR-WB (just the<br>
>>>> implementation).<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> AFAIK mod_sangoma_codec is no more legal than libamr.<br>
>><br>
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