Yes it is kind specific to our needs, which is very fast loading of specific XML in big environments <br>We have some experience with FreeSWITCH modules, we wrote the Voicemail module from scratch after the existing one did not fit our need <br>
I think on the FreeSWITCH clustering we were really struggling and this is were the scaling became very challenging for us<br>Do you have any good document or reference on good practice to cluster FreeSWITCH, specifically cluster of FreeSWITCHes that can hold tenth of thousands of users in a single cluster? <br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Anthony Minessale <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anthony.minessale@gmail.com" target="_blank">anthony.minessale@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>I appreciate your patch but it looks very specific to your needs.</div><div><br></div>I think you should stop and join the community and learn the philosophy behind how things work and learn how to make a module.<div>
You are breaking holes in the wall to get through because you are not seeing the door.</div><div><br></div><div>I really think you should understand how the xml hooks or dialplan modules work and how to actually scale things in FreeSWITCH.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Join IRC and call the weekly call and maybe study the wiki.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Yiftach Golan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yiftah@choochee.com" target="_blank">yiftah@choochee.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">OK I loaded the code to :<br><a href="http://jira.freeswitch.org/browse/FS-4766" target="_blank">http://jira.freeswitch.org/browse/FS-4766</a><br>
I have to say that this version is much less tested than the one we had for FreeSWITCH1.0.7 but hopefully we can still gain from this improvement<br>
<br>I have a different question on the same issue : <br>Even with this fix it is very hard to put huge XMLs, the memory consumption is going crazy <br>Did you think about adding MySQL support ? <br>I thought on adding something like : <br>
<action application="bridge" data="MYSQL(SELECT bridge_data FROM users WHERE destination_number = ${destination_number})"/><br>This will allow us to still use the flexibility of the XMLs and the scalability of a database<br>
Do you know if someone did already?<br><br>Thanks,<br>Yiftach.<div><div><br> <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Anthony Minessale <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anthony.minessale@gmail.com" target="_blank">anthony.minessale@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Can you git diff it and post it to JIRA so we can have some people look at it and test?<div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Yiftach Golan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yiftah@choochee.com" target="_blank">yiftah@choochee.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">It may be a bit problematic since I will need 3 hooks : <br>1. <u>switch_xml_parse_fd :</u> Create the initial pre allocated buffer<br>
2. <u>preprocess :</u> indexing the file names (adding a note before and after each file )<br>
3. <u>switch_xml_parse_file :</u> use my reload instead the regular one for creating the big xml and then I just let the function continue as usual through the "__switch_xml_open_root" function <br>I am reloading the file to the memory and then let the regular "switch_xml.c" do its work, so using the existing functions in "switch_xml.c" will not do the work<br>
However, we do not have to add it I just thought it would be good improvement for FreeSWITCH as it was very helpful for us <br><div><div> <br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Anthony Minessale <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anthony.minessale@gmail.com" target="_blank">anthony.minessale@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I thought you were going to move it to be a module?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Yiftach Golan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yiftah@choochee.com" target="_blank">yiftah@choochee.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I merged my code to the HEAD here are the results (I yet checked in the code) : <br># time /opt/freeswitch/bin/fs_cli -x "reloadxml"<br>
+OK [Success]<br>real <b>0m24.424s</b><br>user 0m0.000s<br>sys 0m0.020s<br>
<br># time /opt/freeswitch/bin/fs_cli -x "reloadxml /repository/generated_configs/tenant_dialplan/156792923823_tenant_dialplan.xml"<br>+OK [Success]<br>real <b>0m0.315s</b><br>user 0m0.000s<br>sys 0m0.010s<br>
<br>Looks like there is major improvement in the loading time<br>How does it work, I just need to check in my code to the git? with my subscribe user? <br>Thanks,<br>Yiftach.<div><div><br><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Yiftach Golan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yiftah@choochee.com" target="_blank">yiftah@choochee.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">OK I will do so <br> <br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Anthony Minessale <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anthony.minessale@gmail.com" target="_blank">anthony.minessale@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Also, if you design it cleanly and generic enough you can check the module itself into HEAD and maintain it yourself and others can choose to use it.<div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Yiftach Golan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yiftah@choochee.com" target="_blank">yiftah@choochee.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Yes I agree, I can solve it this way for me, if anyone else in the community is looking for a very fast way of loading a specific file from the "reloadxml" command I can update it to the HEAD<div>
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On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Anthony Minessale <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anthony.minessale@gmail.com" target="_blank">anthony.minessale@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>The man xml registry is already reloaded using the method described. In fact the xml root has reference counting and everyone who was on the old one will be able to hold on to that root until they release it even when a new one has been loaded into place.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I think if you pursue the custom C module with the XML hook, that you can put your same logic into a module and not bother the core as any access to the core xml will be redirected to your module callback where you can do whatever you want and not disturb the core of FS unless you have some kind of functionality that is useful to everyone in general.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Yiftach Golan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yiftah@choochee.com" target="_blank">yiftah@choochee.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">You may be able to develop it as well but it will not solve our problem of pushing configuration fast<br>We have a front end that pushes the configuration changes and it needs to be fast, so even if we change it in the background it will be slow <br>
<div><div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Puskás Zsolt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:errotan@elder.hu" target="_blank">errotan@elder.hu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div><br>
I'm not an expert ( correct me if I'm wrong ) but I suppose the
xml config memory section is locked while the files are proccessed
so other modules are waiting for it. Instead of loading just one
file you could continue to load all the files into somekind of a
new temporary config section without locking the main. Once the
files are loaded and processed the temporary and main section
could be swapped or the temporary is used and the other is deleted
from memory. No idea how many time this could take to implement.<br>
<br>
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2012-10-23 02:56 keltezéssel, Yiftach Golan írta:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Hi FreeSWITCH community, <br>
My name is Yiftah and I am working for ChooChee which is a hosted
PBX solution company <br>
We have been using FreeSWITCH for almost 2 years and we added a
lot of code changes to the core and to the different modules<br>
Lately we have made a decision to get more close to the community
so that we can enjoy the bug fixes and the new feature from the
community and we can contribute our knowledge and bug fixes <br>
I would please like to start with a very basic question :<br>
We are using dialplan xmls in order to load the configuration, we
have a lot of users on each freeswitch (+4k), it took a very long
time for the configuration to load (around 5 minutes) during this
time no new calls could be served by FreeSWITCH<br>
In order to solve this problem we introduce reload xml that
accepts file names and has the ability to load just one file name
into the memory (we achieved 10ms loading time instead of 5
minutes) <br>
The problem is that we had to introduce a lot of code in order to
solve this problem, has anyone else encounter this problem? we do
not want to use mod_xml_curl as we want to take care bringing the
file to the machine <br>
Another approach that we thought is that a database might be much
better fit in here, because every xml update includes the entire
tenant (business) and has the potential in harming other users in
the same tenant, also DB has much higher capacities then XMLs, did
anyone think of enabling MySQL as a directory of parameters
instead of xml?<br>
Thanks,<br>
Yiftach.<br>
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GTALK/JABBER/<a href="mailto:PAYPAL%3Aanthony.minessale@gmail.com" target="_blank">PAYPAL:anthony.minessale@gmail.com</a><br>
IRC: <a href="http://irc.freenode.net" target="_blank">irc.freenode.net</a> #freeswitch<br><br>FreeSWITCH Developer Conference<br><a href="mailto:sip%3A888@conference.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">sip:888@conference.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="mailto:googletalk%3Aconf%2B888@conference.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">googletalk:conf+888@conference.freeswitch.org</a><br>
pstn:<a href="tel:%2B19193869900" value="+19193869900" target="_blank">+19193869900</a><br>
<br>_________________________________________________________________________<br>
Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services:<br>
<a href="mailto:consulting@freeswitch.org" target="_blank">consulting@freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com</a><br>
<br>
FreeSWITCH-powered IP PBX: The CudaTel Communication Server<br>
<a href="http://www.cudatel.com" target="_blank">http://www.cudatel.com</a><br>
<br>
Official FreeSWITCH Sites<br>
<a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="http://wiki.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://wiki.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="http://www.cluecon.com" target="_blank">http://www.cluecon.com</a><br>
<br>
FreeSWITCH-users mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users</a><br>
UNSUBSCRIBE:<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users</a><br>
<a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br>
</div></div><br>_________________________________________________________________________<br>
Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services:<br>
<a href="mailto:consulting@freeswitch.org" target="_blank">consulting@freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com</a><br>
<br>
FreeSWITCH-powered IP PBX: The CudaTel Communication Server<br>
<a href="http://www.cudatel.com" target="_blank">http://www.cudatel.com</a><br>
<br>
Official FreeSWITCH Sites<br>
<a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="http://wiki.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://wiki.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="http://www.cluecon.com" target="_blank">http://www.cluecon.com</a><br>
<br>
FreeSWITCH-users mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users</a><br>
UNSUBSCRIBE:<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users</a><br>
<a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Anthony Minessale II<br><br>FreeSWITCH <a href="http://www.freeswitch.org/" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org/</a><br>ClueCon <a href="http://www.cluecon.com/" target="_blank">http://www.cluecon.com/</a><br>
Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/FreeSWITCH_wire" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/FreeSWITCH_wire</a><br><br>AIM: anthm<br><a href="mailto:MSN%3Aanthony_minessale@hotmail.com" target="_blank">MSN:anthony_minessale@hotmail.com</a><br>
GTALK/JABBER/<a href="mailto:PAYPAL%3Aanthony.minessale@gmail.com" target="_blank">PAYPAL:anthony.minessale@gmail.com</a><br>
IRC: <a href="http://irc.freenode.net" target="_blank">irc.freenode.net</a> #freeswitch<br><br>FreeSWITCH Developer Conference<br><a href="mailto:sip%3A888@conference.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">sip:888@conference.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="mailto:googletalk%3Aconf%2B888@conference.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">googletalk:conf+888@conference.freeswitch.org</a><br>
pstn:<a href="tel:%2B19193869900" value="+19193869900" target="_blank">+19193869900</a><br>
</div>
<br>_________________________________________________________________________<br>
Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services:<br>
<a href="mailto:consulting@freeswitch.org" target="_blank">consulting@freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com</a><br>
<br>
FreeSWITCH-powered IP PBX: The CudaTel Communication Server<br>
<a href="http://www.cudatel.com" target="_blank">http://www.cudatel.com</a><br>
<br>
Official FreeSWITCH Sites<br>
<a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="http://wiki.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://wiki.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="http://www.cluecon.com" target="_blank">http://www.cluecon.com</a><br>
<br>
FreeSWITCH-users mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users</a><br>
UNSUBSCRIBE:<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users</a><br>
<a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br>
</div></div><br>_________________________________________________________________________<br>
Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services:<br>
<a href="mailto:consulting@freeswitch.org" target="_blank">consulting@freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com</a><br>
<br>
FreeSWITCH-powered IP PBX: The CudaTel Communication Server<br>
<a href="http://www.cudatel.com" target="_blank">http://www.cudatel.com</a><br>
<br>
Official FreeSWITCH Sites<br>
<a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="http://wiki.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://wiki.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="http://www.cluecon.com" target="_blank">http://www.cluecon.com</a><br>
<br>
FreeSWITCH-users mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users</a><br>
UNSUBSCRIBE:<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users</a><br>
<a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Anthony Minessale II<br><br>FreeSWITCH <a href="http://www.freeswitch.org/" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org/</a><br>ClueCon <a href="http://www.cluecon.com/" target="_blank">http://www.cluecon.com/</a><br>
Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/FreeSWITCH_wire" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/FreeSWITCH_wire</a><br><br>AIM: anthm<br><a href="mailto:MSN%3Aanthony_minessale@hotmail.com" target="_blank">MSN:anthony_minessale@hotmail.com</a><br>
GTALK/JABBER/<a href="mailto:PAYPAL%3Aanthony.minessale@gmail.com" target="_blank">PAYPAL:anthony.minessale@gmail.com</a><br>
IRC: <a href="http://irc.freenode.net" target="_blank">irc.freenode.net</a> #freeswitch<br><br>FreeSWITCH Developer Conference<br><a href="mailto:sip%3A888@conference.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">sip:888@conference.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="mailto:googletalk%3Aconf%2B888@conference.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">googletalk:conf+888@conference.freeswitch.org</a><br>
pstn:<a href="tel:%2B19193869900" value="+19193869900" target="_blank">+19193869900</a><br>
</div>
<br>_________________________________________________________________________<br>
Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services:<br>
<a href="mailto:consulting@freeswitch.org">consulting@freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com</a><br>
<br>
FreeSWITCH-powered IP PBX: The CudaTel Communication Server<br>
<a href="http://www.cudatel.com" target="_blank">http://www.cudatel.com</a><br>
<br>
Official FreeSWITCH Sites<br>
<a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="http://wiki.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://wiki.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="http://www.cluecon.com" target="_blank">http://www.cluecon.com</a><br>
<br>
FreeSWITCH-users mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org">FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users</a><br>
UNSUBSCRIBE:<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users</a><br>
<a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br>