Yes, faxing is great fun! But it's true, if you're working for someone you can recommend better ways, but if a client says 'I want fax' and you say 'no', kiss that sale goodbye. I'd rather support faxing (which freeswitch makes pretty simple) than lose out on all the money! <div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 10 July 2012 12:12, Brian Foster <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bdfoster@endigotech.com" target="_blank">bdfoster@endigotech.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p>Besides, fax is fun, right?</p><div class="im HOEnZb">
<p>Brian Foster<br>
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</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On Jul 10, 2012 12:43 AM, "Michael Giagnocavo" <<a href="mailto:mgg@giagnocavo.net" target="_blank">mgg@giagnocavo.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Sure, and I wholeheartedly agree. But none of these arguments are compelling to users, and making them just means you’ll lose a sale. It’s unlikely a large
fax customer is going to say “Wow, you know, I now realize faxes are just ancient relics, and we’re going to ditch them.” By not enabling faxes, you only end up harming the customer.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 09, 2012 8:31 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There are more modern ways of legally transmitting documents. Signed and all. I have several clients that are practicing lawyers in multiple states and my own brother has a law firm.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">These are simply excuses. My point is that there ARE better ways. We just keep enabling a poor, old, and broken technology.<u></u><u></u></p>
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part of T.38 was driven by legal requirements.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 09, 2012 6:13 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I disagree. The job of any telecom or IT professional is to also educate and circulate out antiquated equipment.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I don't know why we still accept the use of faxes when things like typewriters have pretty much been eliminated.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p>You know if I told my boss that all fax machines were phased out . I wouldn't have a job. He's gonna say my job is to make our equipment work not force them to switch to different methods<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think it would be wonderful if all VoIP admins and providers<br>
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> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Sean Devoy <<a href="mailto:sdevoy@bizfocused.com" target="_blank">sdevoy@bizfocused.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Has anyone investigated the new FaxxBochs offering? It appears to handle the<br>
>> analog fax machine locally, then send the fax as a data TCP connection to<br>
>> the server (as a TIFF or JPG I would guess).<br>
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