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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Sure, and I wholeheartedly agree. But none of these arguments are compelling to users, and making them just means you&#8217;ll lose a sale. It&#8217;s unlikely a large
 fax customer is going to say &#8220;Wow, you know, I now realize faxes are just ancient relics, and we&#8217;re going to ditch them.&#8221; By not enabling faxes, you only end up harming the customer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Ferreira<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 09, 2012 8:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> FreeSWITCH Users Help<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Freeswitch-users] FaxxBochs hackers?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There are more modern ways of legally transmitting documents. Signed and all. I have several clients that are practicing lawyers in multiple states and my own brother has a law firm.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">These are simply excuses. My point is that there ARE better ways. We just keep enabling a poor, old, and broken technology.<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Jul 9, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Michael Giagnocavo &lt;<a href="mailto:mgg@giagnocavo.net">mgg@giagnocavo.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Faxes carry legal standing that email does not. So, you can want a better solution, but the reality is that fax won&#8217;t disappear soon. In fact, as I understand,
 part of T.38 was driven by legal requirements.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">-Michael</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
<a href="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org">freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org">freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Ferreira<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 09, 2012 6:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> FreeSWITCH Users Help<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Freeswitch-users] FaxxBochs hackers?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I disagree. The job of any telecom or IT professional is to also educate and circulate out antiquated equipment.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I don't know why we still accept the use of faxes when things like typewriters have pretty much been eliminated.<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Jul 9, 2012, at 7:07 PM, BookBag &lt;<a href="mailto:asaad2@gmail.com">asaad2@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>You know if I told my boss that all fax machines were phased out . I wouldn't have a job. He's gonna say my job is to make our equipment work not force them to switch to different methods<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jul 9, 2012 2:18 PM, &quot;Chris Ferreira&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:chris@gonumina.com">chris@gonumina.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I think it would be wonderful if all VoIP admins and providers<br>
collectively told the people needing fax service that it has been<br>
completely phased out.<br>
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I think it would be great if stores stopped selling fax machines and<br>
all remaining fax machines were recycled.<br>
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The only reason faxing still exists is because of the few people that<br>
refuse to let it die.<br>
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On Jul 9, 2012, at 12:58 PM, Gabriel Gunderson &lt;<a href="mailto:gabe@gundy.org">gabe@gundy.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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&gt; On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Sean Devoy &lt;<a href="mailto:sdevoy@bizfocused.com">sdevoy@bizfocused.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; Has anyone investigated the new FaxxBochs offering? It appears to handle the<br>
&gt;&gt; analog fax machine locally, then send the fax as a data TCP connection to<br>
&gt;&gt; the server (as a TIFF or JPG I would guess).<br>
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&gt; Given how it works, they should have named it FauxBochs.<br>
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&gt; Gabe<br>
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