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    Hi,<br>
    <br>
    Your questin is quite difficult to answer because depend on your
    country laws.<br>
    <br>
    About public network, I think you are concern about TDM service
    (PSTN).&nbsp; Well, as always, some stuff are not considered by the
    people who made some laws.<br>
    <br>
    Well, in my country customer are encouraged to deploy cross-systems.
    For example, PIN number is set by internet (where you can implement
    all crypting available). By phone in TDM no crypting, ( and by VoIP
    you have to implement SIPS and SRTP, TLS at least) then very strong
    set of questions/answer to do a positive verification of the caller.
    <br>
    <br>
    Of course, where you have to put encryption and security is inside
    of your systems, and deploy a good system control to control and
    manage your sensible data.<br>
    <br>
    Take a look this links:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.linuxwall.info/doku.php/en:ressources:dossiers:voip:tls_sips_rtps">http://wiki.linuxwall.info/doku.php/en:ressources:dossiers:voip:tls_sips_rtps</a><br>
    <br>
    and<br>
    <br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.vadese.org/files/upload/Best_practices_VoIP_en_v20.pdf">http://www.vadese.org/files/upload/Best_practices_VoIP_en_v20.pdf</a><br>
    <br>
    I hope this helps<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    On 12/19/2011 7:22 AM, Avi Marcus wrote:
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CALNZuwm5=R6tN+zCTW0cWRgKO4whLG2MYuZ073T+QV_nAXRntQ@mail.gmail.com"
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          <div>I'm planning on an IVR to accept credit card information
            for signing up and renewal of my services.</div>
          <div>Regarding fraud, I'm going to require at minimum a
            recording of name, who they are, or something or an actual
            live call.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>But for PCI compliance.. this says <a
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href="https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/documents/protecting_telephone-based_payment_card_data.pdf">https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/documents/protecting_telephone-based_payment_card_data.pdf</a>&nbsp;on
            page 9:</div>
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            centers will need to ensure that transmission of cardholder
            data across&nbsp;public networks is encrypted.<br>
            This is part of PCI DSS Requirement 4 and includes:
            <ul>
              <li>...</li>
            </ul>
            <ul>
              <li><b>Voice or data streams over Voice over IP (VoIP)
                  telephone systems,&nbsp;whenever sent over an open or
                  public network. Note that only those&nbsp;consumer or
                  enterprise VoIP systems that provide strong
                  cryptography&nbsp;should be used.&nbsp;</b></li>
            </ul>
            <ul>
              <li>Requiring agents to use analog telephone lines when a
                VoIP telephone&nbsp;system does not provide strong
                cryptography.</li>
            </ul>
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        <div>I'm doing dtmf, not voice, but I can't imagine that's LESS
          strict.</div>
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        <div>I haven't really heard of any end-to-end encrypted
          origination lines. Is this guideline ignored? How do people
          deal with this? Does someone have T1 lines and offers
          encryption for origination...?</div>
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              style="font-size:small">-Avi Marcus</span><br>
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