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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I think if you could get a mpls line from one of the big three and have them termite voice over it that would be PCI compliant but I bet this will cost more
 than getting a PRI. Another option would be seeing if someone would be will to encoding traffic and would sell you a few channels but I bet the cost per channel could be high &#8211; we estimate our cost to be around 39.00 per channel per month plus the per minute
 rate of .007 local and .035 for 800. I may be able to help you, email me off line.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Avi Marcus<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 19, 2011 1:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> FreeSWITCH Users Help<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Freeswitch-users] PCI Compliance Over Telephone for Credit Cards- how?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Encrypting yourself only helps if you have a T1/BRI whatever private link to the telco. I don't.. what are my options?<br clear="all">
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Elliott Vogel &lt;<a href="mailto:elliott@zoogmedia.com">elliott@zoogmedia.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I haven&#8217;t seen a company yet and I have searched &#8211; none of the big origination providers do and many
 of the smaller ones use the big providers &#8211; we are force to do our own encoding</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
<a href="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Avi Marcus<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 19, 2011 12:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> FreeSWITCH Users Help<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Freeswitch-users] PCI Compliance Over Telephone for Credit Cards- how?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">So is there a provider&nbsp;for USA&nbsp;who takes T1 and encrypts it, so I can buy origination from them?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">-Avi</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Elliott Vogel &lt;<a href="mailto:elliott@zoogmedia.com" target="_blank">elliott@zoogmedia.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Well, I have worked a lot with PCI compliance in the past and I don&#8217;t think you can meet the requirements
 of encryption if you&#8217;re not doing encoding yourself because most voip service providers aren&#8217;t encrypting the calls. &nbsp;Also dtmf has the same for requirements and for T1 not being encrypted this is true but because the network is considered secured(funny)/private
 it&#8217;s doesn&#8217;t need to be &#8211; now if you would encapsulate t1 traffic to send it over the internet without encrypting it this would be unsecured.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
<a href="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Avi Marcus<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 19, 2011 5:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> FreeSWITCH Users Help<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Freeswitch-users] PCI Compliance Over Telephone for Credit Cards- how?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I'm planning on an IVR to accept credit card information for signing up and renewal of my services.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Regarding fraud, I'm going to require at minimum a recording of name, who they are, or something or an actual live call.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">But for PCI compliance.. this says
<a href="https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/documents/protecting_telephone-based_payment_card_data.pdf" target="_blank">
https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/documents/protecting_telephone-based_payment_card_data.pdf</a>&nbsp;on page 9:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Call centers will need to ensure that transmission of cardholder data across&nbsp;public networks is encrypted.<br>
This is part of PCI DSS Requirement 4 and includes:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Voice or data streams over Voice over IP (VoIP) telephone systems,&nbsp;whenever sent over an open or public network. Note that only those&nbsp;consumer or enterprise VoIP systems that provide strong cryptography&nbsp;should be used.&nbsp;</b><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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Requiring agents to use analog telephone lines when a VoIP telephone&nbsp;system does not provide strong cryptography.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I'm doing dtmf, not voice, but I can't imagine that's LESS strict.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I haven't really heard of any end-to-end encrypted origination lines. Is this guideline ignored? How do people deal with this? Does someone have T1 lines and offers encryption for
 origination...?<o:p></o:p></p>
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