it's not,<div><br></div><div>most likely you have a jitterbuffer on your phone that is recharging when you start talking.</div><div>are you on the latest GIT where we have the waste bandwidth flag on permanently for all callers?</div>
<div>To avoid problems like this conferences now always send rtp to people even when they are not getting any useful input.</div><div> <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/11/3 Roland Hänel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:roland@haenel.me">roland@haenel.me</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Anthony,<div><br></div><div>The problem is not that audio is clipped because its "too silent", so adjusting the value seems to be the wrong handle for this problem.</div>
<div><br></div><div>It seems that the time needed to make the decision (regardless of the energy threshold value) is the core of the issue, i.e. the level may bei 100, 200 or 300, it takes some XX ms to detect talking and all audio that happens before the detection gets lost. Right?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Greetings,</div><div>Roland</div><div><br></div><div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/11/3 Anthony Minessale <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anthony.minessale@gmail.com" target="_blank">anthony.minessale@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>The setting is an arbitrary number of the energy score required to count as talking.</div></div><div><br></div>
<div><br></div>check your environments, its very specific to the surroundings.<div>We run it at 200 in the main FS conf and its rarely an issue.</div><div><div></div><div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><a href="tel:2011%2F11%2F3" value="+492011113" target="_blank">2011/11/3</a> Roland Hänel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:roland@haenel.me" target="_blank">roland@haenel.me</a>></span><br>
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<p>Setting it to 10 or so doesn't help, it seems that just the threshold of detection is changed (ok, that's what is expected), not the time until the decision is made.</p>
<p>The audio clipping is a timing issue. <br>
Does there exist something like a "minimum time" that this algorithm needs to detect talking after silence? What happens to the audio that was sent by that member during this time, does.the algorithm discard that?</p>
<p>Greetings,<br>
Roland</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">Am 03.11.2011 18:20 schrieb "Anthony Minessale" <<a href="mailto:anthony.minessale@gmail.com" target="_blank">anthony.minessale@gmail.com</a>>:<div><div></div><div><br type="attribution">
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yes? set it to something between what it was and 0 ?<div><br></div><div> <param name="energy-level" value="300"/></div><div><br></div><div>try <a href="tel:200%20100%2050" value="+4920010050" target="_blank">200 100 50</a> ?<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><a href="tel:2011%2F11%2F3" value="+492011113" target="_blank">2011/11/3</a> Roland Hänel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:roland@haenel.me" target="_blank">roland@haenel.me</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<div><br></div><div>During thorough testing of our conference solution which is based on FreeSwitch / mod_conference, we noticed some 'audio clipping' during the conference. Typically, if a conference member didn't have audio for some time and then begins to speak, the first syllable will be clipped and cannot be heard by the other conference participants.</div>
<div><br></div><div>We ruled out a number of possible causes, and finally discovered that the energy level detection algorith seems to be the source of the problem. Setting the energy level for all participants to "0" heals the problem (of course now the noise might be higher since every participant's noise contributes to the total noise), but this setting is not very useful since the "talking detection" seems to rely on the same level, i.e. with energy "0", all members are marked talking all the time (which effectively renders the "talking" display useless).</div>
<div><br></div><div>Is there any chance to tune the energy level detection time (!), or to de-couple talking detection an energy level detection in FreeSwitch?</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div>Roland</div>
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