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Hello<br>
<br>
we have been developing a Fidelio interface which works with
Freeswitch. It's actually based on an Asterisk interface, where we
emulate the Asterisk side. If anybody is interested, just contact
me.<br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
Peter<br>
<br>
<br>
Am 02.08.2011 17:50, schrieb Robert Huddleston:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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73, 125);">Maybe we should start a new mailing list – as
this Fidelio conversation is very small audienced<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org">freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org">mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>João Mesquita<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 02, 2011 11:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Saugort Dario Garcia Tovar<br>
<b>Cc:</b> FreeSWITCH Users Help<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Freeswitch-users] Fidelio<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Dear Dario,<br>
<br>
Ante todo, un saludo de uno más que habla español!<br>
<br>
I have worked with an Argentinian company called BitSense for
them to develop their hospitality solution called Coral. They
have CSTA integrated with Siemens amongst other things and
their base is in fact FreeSWITCH. I am unsure of how many
hotels they managed to install and their integration with
Fidelio. I have worked in the past for a brazilian company
that has a similar product (I think they are the current
Siemens solution) and I do know ppl inside of Micros, hence my
last email.<br>
<br>
Yo conozco a ANEW por otros motivos ajenos a FS y de hecho
cuando recibi tu mail me puse en contacto con Jhonny Lagos,
pero me enteré que ya no esta mas en ANEW. Están buscando una
solución hotelera? Te puedo presentar a esta gente, son
clientes mios. Será un gusto ayudarlos en lo que pueda.<br>
<br>
Saludos,<br clear="all">
João Mesquita<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2011/8/2 Saugort Dario Garcia Tovar <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:dgarcia@anew.com.ve">dgarcia@anew.com.ve</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello all<br>
If you have money to afford the certification process go
ahead, at the end you will get back the money if you see
that you can put a hotel solution based on FS in your
local market.<br>
<br>
I am new in FS world. I barely<br>
<br>
I used to work with Alcatel-Lucent OXE (IP-PBX). First the
OXE, by itself, offer hotel funcionality: voicemail for
guest, guest room admin (ready/free, cleaning,
occupied,etc), alarm clock (at the hour programmed by the
guest from their phone or for "hotel phone console" or
admin interfase; the phone ring), fax service, room
billing (quite different fron a normal cdr), etc, etc,
etc. Second, OXE offer a propetary protocol to make
possible PMS like fidelio to interface with, that means,
Fidelio become the administrative interface, so from
fidelio control room status, services, etc.<br>
<br>
So the first, do you have to adapt FS to offer a minimum
of hotel funcionality. Second about make a PMS-FS
integration could be two options or more: 1) adapt FS to
PMS (using the integration doc); 2) many pbx vendors offer
info about their hotel link protocol for free (not
Alcatel), and are supported by fidelio like, OXE does, so
you could develop a interface that emulate an already
supported hotel link towards Fidelio and FS.<br>
<br>
I have a question: has someone work with FS to offer an
hotel solution?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 8/1/2011 9:19 PM, João Mesquita wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Like
I said, if you can raise enough money to be able to
get the certification going, I can talk to the ppl I
know on Micros and see if we can get FS certified
(no guarantees), but it will cost at least 5k USD,
so I really don't know if there is enough interest.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br clear="all">
João Mesquita<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:36
PM, Nandy Dagondon <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gcd@i.ph" target="_blank">gcd@i.ph</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">yes, certification is big
obstacle. too much for our intended project.
perhaps FS can apply for certification as a
platform not on a per-company/model basis. i just
hope Fidelio would be open to the idea. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">another option would be to
ask Asterisk-FIAS connectors like PBillX the
possibility to include FreeSwitch.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">2011/8/2 João Mesquita
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jmesquita@freeswitch.org"
target="_blank">jmesquita@freeswitch.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I think there are none
doing this at this moment. Here's what I
know tho:<br>
<br>
1. I haven't seen the contracts or legal
papers involved in the certification<br>
2. I've never done a connector even tho I
worked with companies that did in the past<br>
3. I know that the
homologation/certification costs money and
not little money. As far as I know, there
are differences between countries when it
comes to the fee to be paid. Here is
Argentina it is something close to
USD$5.000,00.<br>
4. For you to be officially certified by
them, you need to have your system
installed on at least 3 hotels with
Fidelio, otherwise you just lost money.<br>
<br>
That should pretty much give you a hint of
what you are facing when it comes to the
certification process. Does your project
accomodate these imposed barriers? If they
do, I might be able to help.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br clear="all">
<span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);">João
Mesquita</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Aug 1,
2011 at 9:38 PM, Nandy Dagondon <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gcd@i.ph"
target="_blank">gcd@i.ph</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">hi <span
style="font-size: 13.5pt;
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"Arial","sans-serif";
color: rgb(34, 34, 34);
background: none repeat scroll 0%
0% white;">João,</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 13.5pt;
font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif";
color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">since
you had FIAS experience, would a
commercial mod_fias
license/certification be
possible just like g.729? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span
style="font-size: 13.5pt;
font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif";
color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">re
companies selling FIAS
connectors, i can't find one
that connects FS to Fidelio.
otherwise, they would sound off
in this thread.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">-nandy<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">2011/7/6
João Mesquita <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jmesquita@freeswitch.org"
target="_blank">jmesquita@freeswitch.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Guys,
be careful because I think
this document as well as
the protocol are
confidential. I had to
sign an NDA with Fidelio
to get my hands on it and
pay a fee for it as well.
You might as well confirm
it since you all seem to
be in the US where this
type of information might
be easier to get. <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">There
are LOTS of companies
selling their connectors
to Fidelio...<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">One
other point is that you
need to have the
certification with them
to be considered
compatible, otherwise,
no consultant will
install the connector on
the fidelio side. <br
clear="all">
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:
rgb(136, 136, 136);">João
Mesquita</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:
12pt;"><br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal">On
Tue, Jul 5, 2011
at 1:52 PM, Luis
F Urrea <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lfurrea@gmail.com" target="_blank">lfurrea@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal">Awesome!
great
suggestions to
get started, <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">There
is also a FIAS
simulator
floating
around.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">That
one may be a
little harder
to find? :)<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">On
Tue, Jul 5,
2011 at 10:44
AM, Steven
Ayre <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:steveayre@gmail.com" target="_blank">steveayre@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal">I'm
assuming it's
this document:<br>
<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="ftp://ftp.veracomp.com.pl/net/nomadix/Nomadix%20-%20PMS%20info/FIAS150.pdf"
target="_blank">ftp://ftp.veracomp.com.pl/net/nomadix/Nomadix%20-%20PMS%20info/FIAS150.pdf</a><br>
Quite easy to
google once I
had the
version
number.<br>
<br>
You may find
the nicest
approach is to
write a FOSS
libfias, then
write an
endpoint
module to tie
FS and libfias
together.
Plenty of
existing
endpoint
modules
(mod_sofia
mod_skinny
mod_opal
mod_h323 etc)
can show you
examples to
get you
started. Don't
forget to read
the FS API
documentation
too: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://docs.freeswitch.org/" target="_blank">http://docs.freeswitch.org/</a><br>
<br>
I'm assuming
there are no
license/patent
restrictions
to using FIAS?<br>
<br>
Good luck!<br>
<br>
-Steve <o:p></o:p></p>
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<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal">On
5 July 2011
17:30, Luis F
Urrea <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lfurrea@gmail.com" target="_blank">lfurrea@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal">Hello
Nandy, <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">A
couple of
months ago I
started some
research on
the subject
and concluded
I had to write
my own
interface to
FS, however I
haven't had
the time to
get the
project off
ground yet.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">I
do have a copy
of FIAS
specification
version 1.5
from 2001
which is
publicly
available I am
sure it's not
the latest but
it should
cover the
basics.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">Please
contact me off
list if you
have a hard
time getting
it online.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:
12pt;">Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal">On
Mon, Jul 4,
2011 at 4:07
PM, Nandy
Dagondon <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gcd@i.ph" target="_blank">gcd@i.ph</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
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everybody,<br
clear="all">
<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">anyone
working on
interfacing FS
with Fidelio
Hotel PMS? i
can't find the
FIAS
protocol/specs
online. is
this freely
available?<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">tks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
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