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Hello all<br>
If you have money to afford the certification process go ahead, at
the end you will get back the money if you see that you can put a
hotel solution based on FS in your local market.<br>
<br>
I am new in FS world. I barely<br>
<br>
I used to work with Alcatel-Lucent OXE (IP-PBX). First the OXE, by
itself, offer hotel funcionality: voicemail for guest, guest room
admin (ready/free, cleaning, occupied,etc), alarm clock (at the hour
programmed by the guest from their phone or for "hotel phone
console" or admin interfase; the phone ring), fax service, room
billing (quite different fron a normal cdr), etc, etc, etc. Second,
OXE offer a propetary protocol to make possible PMS like fidelio to
interface with, that means, Fidelio become the administrative
interface, so from fidelio control room status, services, etc.<br>
<br>
So the first, do you have to adapt FS to offer a minimum of hotel
funcionality. Second about make a PMS-FS integration could be two
options or more: 1) adapt FS to PMS (using the integration doc); 2)
many pbx vendors offer info about their hotel link protocol for free
(not Alcatel), and are supported by fidelio like, OXE does, so you
could develop a interface that emulate an already supported hotel
link towards Fidelio and FS.<br>
<br>
I have a question: has someone work with FS to offer an hotel
solution?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 8/1/2011 9:19 PM, João Mesquita wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid:CABH8QX0cgqbPcCtS=2Z0ron_vqX=5-YMrnkGJgqsOYXx81+x9Q@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Like I said, if you can raise enough money to be able
to get the certification going, I can talk to the ppl I know on
Micros and see if we can get FS certified (no guarantees), but it
will cost at least 5k USD, so I really don't know if there is
enough interest.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br clear="all">
João Mesquita<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Nandy
Dagondon <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gcd@i.ph">gcd@i.ph</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding-left: 1ex;">
yes, certification is big obstacle. too much for our intended
project. perhaps FS can apply for certification as a platform
not on a per-company/model basis. i just hope Fidelio would be
open to the idea.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
another option would be to ask Asterisk-FIAS connectors like
PBillX the possibility to include FreeSwitch.</div>
<div>
<div class="h5">
<div><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2011/8/2 João Mesquita <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jmesquita@freeswitch.org"
target="_blank">jmesquita@freeswitch.org</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt
0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204,
204); padding-left: 1ex;">I think there are none
doing this at this moment. Here's what I know tho:<br>
<br>
1. I haven't seen the contracts or legal papers
involved in the certification<br>
2. I've never done a connector even tho I worked
with companies that did in the past<br>
3. I know that the homologation/certification costs
money and not little money. As far as I know, there
are differences between countries when it comes to
the fee to be paid. Here is Argentina it is
something close to USD$5.000,00.<br>
4. For you to be officially certified by them, you
need to have your system installed on at least 3
hotels with Fidelio, otherwise you just lost money.<br>
<br>
That should pretty much give you a hint of what you
are facing when it comes to the certification
process. Does your project accomodate these imposed
barriers? If they do, I might be able to help.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br clear="all">
<font color="#888888">João Mesquita</font>
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at
9:38 PM, Nandy Dagondon <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gcd@i.ph" target="_blank">gcd@i.ph</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:
0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid
rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
hi <span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);
font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size:
18px; background-color: rgb(255, 255,
255);">João,</span>
<div><font color="#222222" face="arial,
sans-serif"><span style="font-size:
18px;"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="arial,
sans-serif"><span style="font-size:
18px;">since you had FIAS experience,
would a commercial mod_fias
license/certification be possible just
like g.729? </span></font></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="arial,
sans-serif"><span style="font-size:
18px;"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="arial,
sans-serif"><span style="font-size:
18px;">re companies selling FIAS
connectors, i can't find one that
connects FS to Fidelio. otherwise,
they would sound off in this thread.<br>
</span></font>
<br>
</div>
<div>-nandy<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div>2011/7/6 João Mesquita <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jmesquita@freeswitch.org"
target="_blank">jmesquita@freeswitch.org</a>></span><br>
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<div>
<div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;
border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,
204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Guys, be careful because I think
this document as well as the
protocol are confidential. I had
to sign an NDA with Fidelio to get
my hands on it and pay a fee for
it as well. You might as well
confirm it since you all seem to
be in the US where this type of
information might be easier to
get.
<div>
<br>
</div>
<div>There are LOTS of companies
selling their connectors to
Fidelio...</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>One other point is that you
need to have the certification
with them to be considered
compatible, otherwise, no
consultant will install the
connector on the fidelio side. <br
clear="all">
<br>
</div>
<div>Regards,<br>
<div><font color="#888888">João
Mesquita</font>
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On
Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:52
PM, Luis F Urrea <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lfurrea@gmail.com" target="_blank">lfurrea@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin: 0pt 0pt
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rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding-left: 1ex;">
Awesome! great
suggestions to get
started,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>There is also a
FIAS simulator
floating around.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>That one may be a
little harder to
find? :)</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<br>
<div
class="gmail_quote">On
Tue, Jul 5,
2011 at 10:44
AM, Steven
Ayre <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:steveayre@gmail.com" target="_blank">steveayre@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:
0pt 0pt 0pt
0.8ex;
border-left:
1px solid
rgb(204, 204,
204);
padding-left:
1ex;">I'm
assuming it's
this document:<br>
<span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="ftp://ftp.veracomp.com.pl/net/nomadix/Nomadix%20-%20PMS%20info/FIAS150.pdf"
target="_blank">ftp://ftp.veracomp.com.pl/net/nomadix/Nomadix%20-%20PMS%20info/FIAS150.pdf</a><br>
Quite easy to
google once I
had the
version
number.<br>
<br>
You may find
the nicest
approach is to
write a FOSS
libfias, then
write an
endpoint
module to tie
FS and libfias
togeth</span><span>er.
Plenty of
existing
endpoint
modules
(mod_sofia
mod_skinny
mod_opal
mod_h323 etc)
can </span>show
you examples
to get you
started. Don't
forget to read
the FS API
documentation
too: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://docs.freeswitch.org/" target="_blank">http://docs.freeswitch.org/</a><br>
<br>
I'm assuming
there are no
license/patent
restrictions
to using FIAS?<br>
<br>
Good luck!<br>
<br>
-Steve
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div
class="gmail_quote">On
5 July 2011
17:30, Luis F
Urrea <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:lfurrea@gmail.com" target="_blank">lfurrea@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:
0pt 0pt 0pt
0.8ex;
border-left:
1px solid
rgb(204, 204,
204);
padding-left:
1ex;">Hello
Nandy,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>A couple
of months ago
I started some
research on
the subject
and concluded
I had to write
my own
interface to
FS, however I
haven't had
the time to
get the
project off
ground yet.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I do have
a copy of FIAS
specification
version 1.5
from 2001
which is
publicly
available I am
sure it's not
the latest but
it should
cover the
basics.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Please
contact me off
list if you
have a hard
time getting
it online.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards<br>
<br>
<div
class="gmail_quote">
<div>
<div>On Mon,
Jul 4, 2011 at
4:07 PM, Nandy
Dagondon <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gcd@i.ph" target="_blank">gcd@i.ph</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
</div>
</div>
<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
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<div>
<div>
<div>hi
everybody,<br
clear="all">
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>anyone
working on
interfacing FS
with Fidelio
Hotel PMS? i
can't find the
FIAS
protocol/specs
online. is
this freely
available?<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
tks,</div>
<div>nandy</div>
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