<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Wes <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:wes-fs@499x.com">wes-fs@499x.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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    I&#39;m sorry, but what is the SLIN format?  I tried that extension and
    it&#39;s invalid.  I searched the wiki and found nothing.  <br></div></blockquote><div><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_pulse-code_modulation">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_pulse-code_modulation</a><br>
<br>There&#39;s lots of names for it. Just think of SLIN as &quot;the format normally stored in a .wav file.&quot; (That&#39;s an imperfect definition but it will help you get over the mental hump.) <br><br>In summary, just record to .wav files and x-code later when there are more system resources available. You could also use &quot;nice&quot; or something like that to prevent the x-coding process from grabbing all your system resources.<br>
<br>-MC<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"><div><div></div><div class="h5">

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    On 6/27/2011 3:29 PM, David Ponzone wrote:
    <blockquote type="cite">You should really consider recording in SLIN, and
      then, batch compressing that later (during off-peak hours) to MP3
      if you really need it to be smaller.
      <div>Any efficient compression takes CPU, and you may want to
        avoid doing that live on your server.</div>
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            <div>Le 27/06/2011 à 21:43, Wes a écrit :</div>
            <br>
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> I guess part of my
                confusion here was due to the term &quot;raw data&quot; mentioned
                in conjunction with the .gsm extension on the wiki page
                below... but actually gsm is a compressed format.<br>
                <br>
                <a href="http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Misc._Dialplan_Tools_record_session" target="_blank">http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Misc._Dialplan_Tools_record_session</a><br>
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                So, what is the best &quot;compressed&quot; format to use for
                recording voice (that is available as a direct recording
                format inside freeswitch)? There are tons of formats
                listed when I do &quot;show file&quot;, but I tried a few and they
                are also giving me large files like the wav extension
                did. (au, for example)<br>
                <br>
                Even though the PCM/Wave format is preferred for voice
                quality, when we&#39;re talking about a 10:1 compression
                ratio, if the sound quality is still acceptable, I&#39;d
                rather just record directly into the compressed format. 
                We&#39;re talking about ~10- 20 minute recordings that will
                need to be transferred over the internet to a third
                party.<br>
                <br>
                On 6/24/2011 6:31 PM, Michael Collins wrote:
                <blockquote type="cite">I would caution you to consider adding
                  disk space before you try to compress all your
                  recordings. The 16 bit SLIN that FS normally puts in
                  your wave files are pretty easy to handle, whether
                  playing back in a FS session, or encoding for playback
                  on some other device. <br>
                  <br>
                  An alternative might be to use lame to convert them to
                  MP3&#39;s or ogg/vorbis files. If you look on the main FS
                  conf call page you&#39;ll see I have the weekly recordings
                  in multiple formats. (<a href="http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Weekly_Conference_Call#Past_Calls" target="_blank">http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Weekly_Conference_Call#Past_Calls</a>)<br>
                  <br>
                  Here are some stats for last Wednesday&#39;s call. Note
                  that I record wave files in 48kHz then use sox to
                  downsample to 16kHz wave, then I convert that 16kHz
                  file into MP3 and Vorbis (in an ogg container). Here&#39;s
                  what the results look like:<br>
                  <br>
                  <span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">&lt;2831&gt;:ls

                    -1s conf_call_2011-06-15.*</span><br style="font-family:courier new,monospace">
                  <span style="font-family:courier new,monospace"> 18736

                    conf_call_2011-06-15.mp3</span><br style="font-family:courier new,monospace">
                  <span style="font-family:courier new,monospace"> 23044

                    conf_call_2011-06-15.ogg</span><br style="font-family:courier new,monospace">
                  <span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">199756

                    conf_call_2011-06-15.wav</span><br style="font-family:courier new,monospace">
                  <br style="font-family:courier new,monospace">
                  <span style="font-family:courier new,monospace"></span><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">&lt;2832&gt;:file

                    conf_call_2011-06-15.mp3 </span><br style="font-family:courier new,monospace">
                  <span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">conf_call_2011-06-15.mp3:

                    MPEG ADTS, layer III, v2,  24 kBits, 16 kHz,
                    Monaural</span><br style="font-family:courier new,monospace">
                  <br style="font-family:courier new,monospace">
                  <span style="font-family:courier new,monospace"></span><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">&lt;2833&gt;:file

                    conf_call_2011-06-15.ogg </span><br style="font-family:courier new,monospace">
                  <span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">conf_call_2011-06-15.ogg:

                    Ogg data, Vorbis audio, mono, 16000 Hz, ~48000 bps,
                    created by: <a href="http://Xiph.Org" target="_blank">Xiph.Org</a> libVorbis I</span><br style="font-family:courier new,monospace">
                  <br style="font-family:courier new,monospace">
                  <span style="font-family:courier new,monospace"></span><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">&lt;2834&gt;:file

                    conf_call_2011-06-15.wav </span><br style="font-family:courier new,monospace">
                  <span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">conf_call_2011-06-15.wav:

                    RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft
                    PCM, 16 bit, mono 16000 Hz</span><br style="font-family:courier new,monospace">
                  <br style="font-family:courier new,monospace">
                  Note that the file sizes are in 1K blocks.<br>
                  <br>
                  So, bottom line is this: if you have the disk space
                  then use wave. If you don&#39;t have disk space for wave
                  then get some! :D If you REALLY need to use a
                  different format then choose something like MP3 or
                  Vorbis for long-term storage. <br>
                  <br>
                  -MC<br>
                  <br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 2:26
                    PM, Wes <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:wes-fs@499x.com" target="_blank">wes-fs@499x.com</a>&gt;</span>
                    wrote:<br>
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"> In my tests, if I
                      record a call in .wav format, a 10 second file is<br>
                      about 177,000 bytes, while a 10 second .gsm file
                      is 17,000 bytes.<br>
                      <br>
                      I  then used sox to convert the .gsm file to a
                      .wav file, and it stayed<br>
                      at around 17,000 bytes.  So, is the default
                      recording format for .wav<br>
                      using a higher sample rate? vs the default
                      conversion format for the sox<br>
                      tool?<br>
                      <br>
                      checking the file type using &quot;file&quot; I see that the
                      larger one is:<br>
                      RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft
                      PCM, 16 bit, mono 8000 Hz<br>
                      <br>
                      and the wav created by sox via the default
                      conversion from .gsm is:<br>
                      RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, GSM 6.10,
                      mono 8000 Hz<br>
                      <br>
                      So apparently the larger wav file is 16 bit... how
                      are these recording<br>
                      parameters controlled?  Can I set it to record
                      directly into the smaller<br>
                      wav format? Or will I have to run sox on every
                      file...<br>
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