<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'><br>Zhone MALC-XP are nowhere near $11k. They are < $100/port<br><br><hr id="zwchr"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"David Ponzone" <david.ponzone@ipeva.fr><br><b>To: </b>"FreeSWITCH Users Help" <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, June 17, 2011 5:29:48 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Freeswitch-users] VoIP IP DSLAMs<br><br>Hmmm unlikely I think.<div>The Zhone box for instance seems to be around 11,000$.</div><div><br><div>
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<br><div><div>Le 17/06/2011 à 10:25, Nandy Dagondon a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote><div>yes, it doesn't add up because the application is in a rural area. the Phybridge is a good solution except for the price. thanks David. however, the MSAN, perfectly describes what i'm looking - hopefully the investment is lower.</div>
<br><div>thanks to all who contributed.</div><div> <br></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:37 PM, David Ponzone <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david.ponzone@ipeva.fr" target="_blank">david.ponzone@ipeva.fr</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Nandy,<div><br></div><div>something does not add up.</div><div>When you deploy DSLAMs for public lines, it's not for 24/48 ports, but rather for 20 000 to 30 000 ports.</div>
<div>Perhaps there is a confusion about what is a public line.</div><div>A public line is the 200 meters-8km pair of copper going from the local (legacy) telco facility to your house.</div><div>You don't install your own DSLAMs for 24/48 ports, or perhaps you are in a very specific situation.</div>
<div>I really doubt you will find a cost effective DSLAM for so few ports.</div><div>Plus, you realize you will need to install on DSLAM in all the telco facilities required to get the coverage you need</div><div><br></div>
<div>There are small DSLAMs on the market, but they are targeted for private lines (hospitality, health care, ...) and I really don't know if they can work on public lines.</div><div><br></div><div>In case you actually need a small DSLAM just to run ADSL over a private pair of copper, you should have a look at:</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.phybridge.com/uniphyer-ip-phones.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.phybridge.com/uniphyer-ip-phones.aspx</a></div><div><br></div><div>This thing does not call itself a DSLAM but it is one.</div>
<div>They market that as a "switch" that enables LAN on your copper wires.</div><div>It's a small lie for data usage as you only get 25Mbps/1.4Mbps (ATM), but for voice, that's enough.</div><div>Basically, you put the "switch"-DSLAM in the network cabinet where the copper wires go, you connect the wires to it, you connect the ethernet port to your LAN (so your FS). In each room/office, you plug an adapter (provided also by Phybridge) which is basically a small ADSL modem (powered from the switch through the wire), from which you get an ethernet port, with POE on it!</div>
<div><br></div><div>I like the solution on the paper, but never used. Because of the cost:</div><div>a 24 ports switch is 3500$</div><div>one adapter is 122$</div><div><br></div><div>so a full 24 ports solution would be 6500$, which is not very competitive compared to recabling the place.</div>
<div><br></div><div>But your mileage may vary.</div><div><br></div><div><div class="im"><div>
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<br></div><div><div>Le 17/06/2011 à 08:28, Nandy Dagondon a écrit :</div><div><div class="h5"><br><blockquote>yes, without ATM layer and it's for public lines.<br><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:19 PM, David Ponzone <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david.ponzone@ipeva.fr" target="_blank">david.ponzone@ipeva.fr</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Which density are you looking for ?<div>Is it for use in a private building or on public lines ?</div><div><br><div>
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<br><div><div>Le 17/06/2011 à 08:07, Nandy Dagondon a écrit :</div><div><div><br><blockquote>hello guys!<br><br>i'm trying to setup a small exchange w/ Internet service - of course, using FS as the exchange. DSLAMs connect to POTS via 2-wire splitters and that would require using FXS gateway (as what Rob mentioned). <br>
<br>i'm trying to find out if there's a way we can omit the FXS - so it's FS-to-DSLAM direct via IP. i'm not sure if this setup is now possible on newer IP DSLAMs. <br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:45 AM, jay binks <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jaybinks@gmail.com" target="_blank">jaybinks@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
this is MY take on what Nandy is after.<div><br></div><div>A Dslam provides DSL on certain frequencies of the line..</div><div>( some of ) the other frequencies are used for voice.</div><div><br></div><div>my understanding is that sometimes this is split off to another device to provide the voice,</div>
<div>but in this case Nandy is after a DSlam that will do the DSL part AND the voice frequencies ( Voice signalling / audio by SIP / RTP )</div><div><br></div><div>I guess this is a logical question and would be quite interesting to see if there are such devices..</div>
<div>sorry I dont know of any :(</div><div><br></div><div>Jay</div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Rob Hutton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:justlikeef@gmail.com" target="_blank">justlikeef@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Can you explain further what you are trying to do? A DSLAM is a device that provides DSL transport, which is independent of what you run across it. So normally, you have<br>
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|Server | ----|network|----|DSLAM| --------[dsl line] -------[modem or modem/router combo]-----[network]---[Client]<br>
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What the Server is (Could be Freeswitch) and what the Client is (could be a VOIP phone) are independent of the transport??? Onewire, Cisco, and others make some DSL Modem/Router combos with integrated Voip to FXS ports for the CPE end.<br>
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If you find a DSLAM running one of the OSs that Freeswitch supports, you could compile Freeswitch for it, but I haven't seen one with enough CPU tp handle much besides the traffic.<br>
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On Thursday 16 June 2011 19:03:50 Nandy Dagondon wrote:<br>
> hello everybody,<br>
><br>
> i'm looking for small (24/48 ports) IP DSLAMs that inter-connects directly<br>
> to FreeSwitch via IP. is this already available on the market? or do we<br>
> still have to connect FreeSwitch via POTS splitters and FXS gateways? i<br>
> appreciate if you can mention some brands/models.<br>
><br>
> tks,<br>
> nandy<br>
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