<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 22:21, Anton VG <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anton.vazir@gmail.com">anton.vazir@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
zyxel have what you ask. Huawei have better pricing (~20$ per port)<br>
but huawei wants to sell huge amounts and quality is somehow bad.<br>
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Zyxel is quite good (did not try ZyXEL Voip features, only ADSL) but<br>
ADSL is good and reliable, but more expensive per port. There are<br>
options for 12/24/48 and modular 300+ ports<br>
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2011/6/20 Matthew S. Crocker <<a href="mailto:matthew@corp.crocker.com">matthew@corp.crocker.com</a>>:<br>
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> Zhone MALC-XP are nowhere near $11k. They are < $100/port<br>
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> From: "David Ponzone" <<a href="mailto:david.ponzone@ipeva.fr">david.ponzone@ipeva.fr</a>><br>
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> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 5:29:48 AM<br>
> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] VoIP IP DSLAMs<br>
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> Hmmm unlikely I think.<br>
> The Zhone box for instance seems to be around 11,000$.<br>
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> Le 17/06/2011 à 10:25, Nandy Dagondon a écrit :<br>
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> yes, it doesn't add up because the application is in a rural area. the<br>
> Phybridge is a good solution except for the price. thanks David. however,<br>
> the MSAN, perfectly describes what i'm looking - hopefully the investment is<br>
> lower.<br>
> thanks to all who contributed.<br>
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> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:37 PM, David Ponzone <<a href="mailto:david.ponzone@ipeva.fr">david.ponzone@ipeva.fr</a>><br>
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>><br>
>> Nandy,<br>
>> something does not add up.<br>
>> When you deploy DSLAMs for public lines, it's not for 24/48 ports, but<br>
>> rather for 20 000 to 30 000 ports.<br>
>> Perhaps there is a confusion about what is a public line.<br>
>> A public line is the 200 meters-8km pair of copper going from the local<br>
>> (legacy) telco facility to your house.<br>
>> You don't install your own DSLAMs for 24/48 ports, or perhaps you are in a<br>
>> very specific situation.<br>
>> I really doubt you will find a cost effective DSLAM for so few ports.<br>
>> Plus, you realize you will need to install on DSLAM in all the telco<br>
>> facilities required to get the coverage you need<br>
>> There are small DSLAMs on the market, but they are targeted for private<br>
>> lines (hospitality, health care, ...) and I really don't know if they can<br>
>> work on public lines.<br>
>> In case you actually need a small DSLAM just to run ADSL over a private<br>
>> pair of copper, you should have a look at:<br>
>> <a href="http://www.phybridge.com/uniphyer-ip-phones.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.phybridge.com/uniphyer-ip-phones.aspx</a><br>
>> This thing does not call itself a DSLAM but it is one.<br>
>> They market that as a "switch" that enables LAN on your copper wires.<br>
>> It's a small lie for data usage as you only get 25Mbps/1.4Mbps (ATM), but<br>
>> for voice, that's enough.<br>
>> Basically, you put the "switch"-DSLAM in the network cabinet where the<br>
>> copper wires go, you connect the wires to it, you connect the ethernet port<br>
>> to your LAN (so your FS). In each room/office, you plug an adapter (provided<br>
>> also by Phybridge) which is basically a small ADSL modem (powered from the<br>
>> switch through the wire), from which you get an ethernet port, with POE on<br>
>> it!<br>
>> I like the solution on the paper, but never used. Because of the cost:<br>
>> a 24 ports switch is 3500$<br>
>> one adapter is 122$<br>
>> so a full 24 ports solution would be 6500$, which is not very competitive<br>
>> compared to recabling the place.<br>
>> But your mileage may vary.<br>
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>> Le 17/06/2011 à 08:28, Nandy Dagondon a écrit :<br>
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>> yes, without ATM layer and it's for public lines.<br>
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>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:19 PM, David Ponzone <<a href="mailto:david.ponzone@ipeva.fr">david.ponzone@ipeva.fr</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Which density are you looking for ?<br>
>>> Is it for use in a private building or on public lines ?<br>
>>> David Ponzone Direction Technique<br>
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>>> tel: 0811 46 26 26<br>
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>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Le 17/06/2011 à 08:07, Nandy Dagondon a écrit :<br>
>>><br>
>>> hello guys!<br>
>>><br>
>>> i'm trying to setup a small exchange w/ Internet service - of course,<br>
>>> using FS as the exchange. DSLAMs connect to POTS via 2-wire splitters and<br>
>>> that would require using FXS gateway (as what Rob mentioned).<br>
>>><br>
>>> i'm trying to find out if there's a way we can omit the FXS - so it's<br>
>>> FS-to-DSLAM direct via IP. i'm not sure if this setup is now possible on<br>
>>> newer IP DSLAMs.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:45 AM, jay binks <<a href="mailto:jaybinks@gmail.com">jaybinks@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> this is MY take on what Nandy is after.<br>
>>>> A Dslam provides DSL on certain frequencies of the line..<br>
>>>> ( some of ) the other frequencies are used for voice.<br>
>>>> my understanding is that sometimes this is split off to another device<br>
>>>> to provide the voice,<br>
>>>> but in this case Nandy is after a DSlam that will do the DSL part AND<br>
>>>> the voice frequencies ( Voice signalling / audio by SIP / RTP )<br>
>>>> I guess this is a logical question and would be quite interesting to see<br>
>>>> if there are such devices..<br>
>>>> sorry I dont know of any :(<br>
>>>> Jay<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Rob Hutton <<a href="mailto:justlikeef@gmail.com">justlikeef@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Can you explain further what you are trying to do? A DSLAM is a device<br>
>>>>> that provides DSL transport, which is independent of what you run across it.<br>
>>>>> So normally, you have<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> |Server | ----|network|----|DSLAM| --------[dsl line] -------[modem or<br>
>>>>> modem/router combo]-----[network]---[Client]<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> What the Server is (Could be Freeswitch) and what the Client is (could<br>
>>>>> be a VOIP phone) are independent of the transport??? Onewire, Cisco, and<br>
>>>>> others make some DSL Modem/Router combos with integrated Voip to FXS ports<br>
>>>>> for the CPE end.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> If you find a DSLAM running one of the OSs that Freeswitch supports,<br>
>>>>> you could compile Freeswitch for it, but I haven't seen one with enough CPU<br>
>>>>> tp handle much besides the traffic.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Thursday 16 June 2011 19:03:50 Nandy Dagondon wrote:<br>
>>>>> > hello everybody,<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > i'm looking for small (24/48 ports) IP DSLAMs that inter-connects<br>
>>>>> > directly<br>
>>>>> > to FreeSwitch via IP. is this already available on the market? or do<br>
>>>>> > we<br>
>>>>> > still have to connect FreeSwitch via POTS splitters and FXS gateways?<br>
>>>>> > i<br>
>>>>> > appreciate if you can mention some brands/models.<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > tks,<br>
>>>>> > nandy<br>
>>>>><br>>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> --<br>
>>>> Sincerely<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Jay<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Very informative discussion. :)</div><div><br></div><div>Can someone also share their experience on Fibre Optic based vendors / solutions?</div><div><br>
</div><div>Regards</div><div>HASSAN</div><div> </div></div>