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<DIV><FONT size=2>I understand well,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>but I think everything is possible, even if it seems huge
work</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>by the right method the huge work can be a reasonable
work.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>It needs only to reflect deeply of how to do
this....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<A title=steveayre@gmail.com href="mailto:steveayre@gmail.com">Steven Ayre</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 04, 2011 10:45
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Freeswitch-users] Auto test
FS install - now necessary?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><A
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_testing#Input_combinations_and_preconditions">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_testing#Input_combinations_and_preconditions</A><BR>"A
very fundamental problem with software testing is that testing under all
combinations of inputs and preconditions (initial state) is not feasible, even
with a simple product. This means that the number of defects in a software
product can be very large and defects that occur infrequently are difficult to
find in testing. More significantly, non-functional dimensions of quality (how
it is supposed to be versus what it is supposed to do)—usability, scalability,
performance, compatibility, reliability—can be highly subjective; something
that constitutes sufficient value to one person may be intolerable to
another.<BR><BR>Software testing is a very difficult thing. Testing every
possible combination of actions and specifically covering the edge cases most
likely to cause problems is pretty much impossible - to run through every
possible action for something as large as FS would literally take longer than
the age of the universe. As a result a script to test for all possible errors
is pretty much impossible, especially for new functionality that'll be added
before the script's updated to test them. There will always be some bugs,
users testing and reporting is the best way to detect ones that the developers
have missed. Generally FS is pretty good at avoiding them.<BR><BR>Testing
yourself is always a good idea before rolling out to a production system.
That'll show any obvious ones up that can be fixed
quickly.<BR><BR>-Steve<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On 4 February 2011 15:13, Madovsky <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:infos@madovsky.org">infos@madovsky.org</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>FS team needs user as users need FS team...<BR>maybe think
to a script (developped by all possible users)<BR>that test every new
functionality...<BR>
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<DIV class=h5><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Anthony Minessale"
<<A
href="mailto:anthony.minessale@gmail.com">anthony.minessale@gmail.com</A>><BR>To:
"FreeSWITCH Users Help" <<A
href="mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org">freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org</A>><BR>Sent:
Friday, February 04, 2011 9:58 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Auto
test FS install - now necessary?<BR><BR><BR>> I've been doing this a long
time and it boils down to:<BR>><BR>> 50%
superstition/paranoia.<BR>> 50% regressions from commits.<BR>><BR>>
Stop and think. Without people updating everyday and telling us when<BR>>
something is not right, we may never find out.<BR>> Engaging in the
community and this mailing list and irc is a community<BR>> effort and
its sometimes a BETA program too.<BR>> Just like if this was a cool video
game, you get to play it before<BR>> everyone else.<BR>> It's hard to
follow every possible execution path and get into every<BR>> nook and
cranny of 3 million lines of code.<BR>> Even with the best unit testing
int the world, we can't do it without<BR>> real people testing.<BR>>
If you stop updating or persuade others to stop, now we are in real<BR>>
trouble.<BR>><BR>> Also, pay attention to the GIT commit
messages:<BR>><BR>> This particular problem (which is fixed now btw)
was committed with a<BR>> warning to please test.<BR>> There was a
bigger problem earlier this week that resulted in some<BR>> minority
invasive changes and its easy to catch the problems and in<BR>> the end
the software is now more stable.<BR>><BR>> commit
f60fdf653dd2d7f8d3eaa6a9086e1f68bd993c59<BR>> Author: Anthony Minessale
<<A
href="mailto:anthm@freeswitch.org">anthm@freeswitch.org</A>><BR>>
Date: Wed Feb 2 16:22:43 2011 -0600<BR>><BR>> fix
possible bad pointer in global vars (please
test)<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:46 PM, Avi
Marcus <<A href="mailto:avi@avimarcus.net">avi@avimarcus.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>>> Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but I've been seeing a lot
of "I just<BR>>> updated<BR>>> to latest git and X
broke"<BR>>> And that x is always something else...<BR>>> I'm
not a seasoned coder on this magnitude, but perhaps we can develop
a<BR>>> test suite (at least part of one) to test that a fresh install
is<BR>>> functioning?<BR>>> A FULL test would probably be a huge
undertaking and involve recqual for<BR>>> testing media, too... Also,
each mod would need to have it's own test<BR>>> suite.<BR>>> Due
to the rapid updating of FreeSWITCH this not be what you want to
put<BR>>> your effort into, but...<BR>>>
Thoughts?<BR>>><BR>>> On Feb 4, 2011 4:04 AM, "Anirudha Shimpi"
<<A href="mailto:anu@familytv.com">anu@familytv.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>> Just downloaded (from git) and installed FS 1.0.7,
however, every time I<BR>>>> do<BR>>>> originate user/1001
&park, FS crashes. Running Centos 5.5 64
bit.<BR>>>><BR>>><BR>>>
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