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<FONT FACE="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:11pt'>That’s exactly the whole point... And then even ilBC isnt that widely deployed but you can get more hardware that speaks iLBC then you can speex... Face it... In reality you’re more widely find hardware that speaks AMR then speex or iLBC, because that what the cellular networks went with (note: I’m not saying that these are better then speex in performance I am strictly talking ease of interop with outside equipment and VoIP vendors)<BR>
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Everyone keeps forgetting that what is best doesn’t always win.. See BetaMax vs VHS...<BR>
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On 2/2/11 3:52 AM, "Steven Ayre" <<a href="steveayre@gmail.com">steveayre@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:11pt'>But you still need someone to be able to talk to. Ken's point is it works great when you're only calling your other Speex phones, but as soon as you want to talk to someone else you'll find they don't have Speex. You then have to use another codec... a common standard one that's been around for so long everyone supports it... like G729.<BR>
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On 2 February 2011 03:00, curriegrad2004 <<a href="curriegrad2004@gmail.com">curriegrad2004@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<BR>
</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:11pt'>If hardware doesn't support it, make one that supports Speex right out<BR>
of the box. I'm pretty sure that somebody will do it.<BR>
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On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Ken Rice <<a href="krice@freeswitch.org">krice@freeswitch.org</a>> wrote:<BR>
> Why people insist on speex I am not sure... Sure its nice on a closed<BR>
> network but quickly looses its luster when communicating with the real<BR>
> world... Not to mention the CPU usages and such...<BR>
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> If you want to use something like speex check out iLBC and theres things<BR>
> like the Sangoma D100/D500 that you can use to offload the transcoding from<BR>
> the CPU (disclaimer I sell the sangoma hardware)<BR>
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> K<BR>
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> On 2/1/11 12:45 PM, "Kristian Kielhofner" <<a href="kris@kriskinc.com">kris@kriskinc.com</a>> wrote:<BR>
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>> Phones, carriers, and just about any commercial gear (reference<BR>
>> hardware, SBCs, DSPs, etc) you'll ever see doesn't support Speex.<BR>
>> Guess how you'll make it work? Transcoding from G729 to Speex. Now<BR>
>> you're using licenses, proxying RTP, and wasting CPU while ruining<BR>
>> voice quality transcoding from one lossy codec to another. It's just<BR>
>> about the worst possible situation you could be in.<BR>
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>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Avi Marcus <<a href="avi@avimarcus.net">avi@avimarcus.net</a>> wrote:<BR>
>>> Except that many hardware phones don't have speex, so the only low-bandwidth<BR>
>>> solution is g729...<BR>
>>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:43 PM, curriegrad2004 <<a href="curriegrad2004@gmail.com">curriegrad2004@gmail.com</a>><BR>
>>> wrote:<BR>
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>>>> Simple solution to this g.729 patent non-sense: Speex.<BR>
>>>><BR>
>>>> 'nuff said.<BR>
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>>>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Anton VG <<a href="anton.vazir@gmail.com">anton.vazir@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<BR>
>>>>> Considering the above, noone can say "Purchase a LICENSE", but only a<BR>
>>>>> "Licensed SOFTWARE"<BR>
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