<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">AFAIK, most (all ?) providers wont accept the transfer.<div>They are not allowed to change the rate of the call from the caller perspective after the call was initiated.</div><div>Imagine you transfer the call to an Iridium number...</div><div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Helvetica Neue'"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#1C00FF">David Ponzone </font><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; ">Direction Technique</span></font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Helvetica Neue'"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; ">email: <a href="mailto:david.ponzone@ipeva.fr">david.ponzone@ipeva.fr</a></span></font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Helvetica Neue'"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; ">tel: 01 74 03 18 97</span></font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Helvetica Neue'"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; ">gsm: 06 66 98 76 34</span></font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Helvetica Neue'"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#1C00FF" face="'Helvetica Neue'">Service Client<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Helvetica Neue'"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF0000">IP</font></font><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#1C00FF" face="'Helvetica Neue'">eva</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#1C00FF" face="'Helvetica Neue'"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; "><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Helvetica Neue'"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; ">tel: 0811 46 26 26</span></font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Helvetica Neue'" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Arial; color: rgb(0, 34, 243); "><span style="text-decoration: underline; "><a href="BLOCKED::http://www.ipeva.fr/">www.ipeva.fr</a></span><span style="color: rgb(101, 104, 149); "> - <span style="color: rgb(0, 34, 243); text-decoration: underline; "><a href="BLOCKED::http://www.ipeva-studio.com/">www.ipeva-studio.com</a></span></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Arial; color: rgb(0, 34, 243); "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline; "><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Arial; color: rgb(0, 34, 243); "><span class="Apple-style-span"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; text-align: justify; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Arial; color: rgb(192, 192, 192); "><i>Ce message et toutes les pièces jointes sont confidentiels et établis à l'intention exclusive de ses destinataires. Toute utilisation ou diffusion non autorisée est interdite. Tout message électronique est susceptible d'altération. </i><b><i>IPeva</i></b><i> décline toute responsabilité au titre de ce message s'il a été altéré, déformé ou falsifié. Si vous n'êtes pas destinataire de ce message, merci de le détruire immédiatement et d'avertir l'expéditeur.</i></div><div style="text-decoration: underline; text-align: justify; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#C0C0C0"><i><br></i></font></div></span></div></span></font></div></span></font></div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>Le 25/08/2010 à 07:44, Ghulam Mustafa a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>i am wondering what will happen if you send a SIP REFER (transfer) after validating leg-a without actually answering the call; will it still cost you 2 * 1.44</div><div><br></div><div> :/</div><div><br></div><div>-mustafa</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Malay Thakershi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mthakershi@gmail.com">mthakershi@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">I am currently looking at Vitelity. They have 1.44 cents per minute. They do charge for incoming/outgoing both.<div><br> </div><div>I am not literally dialing out to a phone. I want to dial a mobile number or any other US number for that matter.</div> <div><br></div><div>Here is what I intent to do:</div><div>1. A US phone dials to Vitelity number -- comes to my FS box</div><div>2. I validate few things</div><div>3. Dial another US number and connect received call to that one</div> <div><br></div><div>So as you said I will be charged 2 * 1.44 (since I can't terminate the arrived call after validation).</div><div><br></div><div>Is there any other way to the sequence I have specified above?</div> <div> <br></div><div>Are there providers similar to Vitelity but cheaper (with relatively same features)?</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you.<br><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Anthony Cosgrove <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:acosgrov@gmail.com" target="_blank">acosgrov@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 13:58 -0500, Malay Thakershi wrote:<br> > Hello,<br> ><br> ><br> > It would be a great help if someone can guide me.<br> ><br> ><br> > 1. I would like to first receive a call, perform certain validations.<br> > (Able to do this via mod_managed application that handles call from<br> > dialplan).<br> ><br> <br> </div>That should not be a problem, I don't know your requirements so can't<br> provide a full answer.<br> <div><br> ><br> > 2. Now, I would like to dial out to a PSTN number so that received<br> > call is connected to this new outbound number.<br> ><br> <br> </div>This can be done and is called hairpinning.<br> <div><br> ><br> > How can this be done? Do I use Originate from within my .NET<br> > (mod_managed) code?<br> ><br> <br> </div>Yes, you would be bridging the two legs like any normal call. Instead of<br> going to an endpoint you're going back out over the PSTN.<br> <div><br> ><br> > Do I get charged for both incoming and outbound call until the entire<br> > session ends? Is there a way to receive call, validate and then sort<br> > of transfer and then terminate the received call so I do not get<br> > charged for both?<br> <br> </div>That would depend on your provider but most likely yes. As for<br> terminating one end after validation that is not going to happen. A leg<br> terminates to you on an agreed fee schedule. No carrier that I know of<br> supports that. Now if you kept everything SIP... you could do a transfer<br> after the validation.<br> <br> <br> <br> Anthony C.<br> <div><div></div><div><br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> FreeSWITCH-users mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users</a><br> UNSUBSCRIBE:<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users</a><br> <a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div> <br>_______________________________________________<br> FreeSWITCH-users mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org">FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users</a><br> UNSUBSCRIBE:<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users</a><br> <a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Ghulam Mustafa<br>cell: +92 333.611.7681<br>sip: <a href="mailto:cyrenity@ekiga.net">cyrenity@ekiga.net</a><br>mail: <a href="http://mustafa.pk">mustafa.pk</a>@<a href="http://gmail.com">gmail.com</a><br> web: <a href="http://cyrenity.wordpress.com">cyrenity.wordpress.com</a><br> </div></div> _______________________________________________<br>FreeSWITCH-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org">FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users<br>UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users<br>http://www.freeswitch.org<br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>