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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Tony sent me a Q.931 trace off-list and I thought
I would post it here any case anyone has seen this before.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The telco side is including a Signal IE in
the SETUP message.  I&#8217;m not sure what this means &#8211; that the telco
will play <i><span style='font-style:italic'>alerting pattern 0</span></i> back
to the CPE unless otherwise instructed?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Other things in the trace:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>  * SETUP is sent again because the dial plan
was executing sleep() before anything triggered a CALL PROCEEDING.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>  * The switch PRI stack is reflecting
back the Signal IE in the ALERTING, CONNECT, and RELEASE messages and the telco
complains that the IE is not supported.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>RX [08 02 32 11 05 a1 04 03 80 90 a2 18 03
a1 83 97 34 01 40 6c 0a 00 81 XX XX XX XX 30 36 39 34 70 05 80 36 37 30 30]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Message Type: [05] SETUP<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IE: [a1] Sending Complete<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IE: [04] Bearer Capability<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IE: [18] Channel identification<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;font-weight:bold'>IE: [34] Signal - Alerting
on &#8211; pattern 0<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IE: [6c] Calling party number - TON
unknown/NPI unknown/Presentation allowed/User-provided, not screened/XXXX0694<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IE: [70] Called party number - TON
unknown/NPI unknown/6700<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>RX [08 02 32 11 05 a1 04 03 80 90 a2 18 03
a1 83 97 34 01 40 6c 0a 00 81 XX XX XX XX 30 36 39 34 70 05 80 36 37 30 30]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Message Type: [05] SETUP<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IE: [a1] Sending Complete<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IE: [04] Bearer Capability<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IE: [18] Channel identification<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;font-weight:bold'>IE: [34] Signal - Alerting
on &#8211; pattern 0<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IE: [6c] Calling party number - TON
unknown/NPI unknown/Presentation allowed/User-provided, not screened/XXXX0694<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IE: [70] Called party number - TON
unknown/NPI unknown/6700<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>TX [08 02 b2 11 02 04 03 80 90 a2 18 03 a1
83 97]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Message Type: [02] CALL PROCEEDING<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IE: [04] Bearer Capability<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IE: [18] Channel identification<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>TX [08 02 b2 11 01 04 03 80 90 a2 18 03 a1
83 97 34 01 40]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Message Type: [01] ALERTING<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IE: [04] Bearer Capability<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IE: [18] Channel identification<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IE: [34] Signal - Alerting on &#8211;
pattern 0<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>TX [08 02 b2 11 07 18 03 a1 83 97 34 01
40]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Message Type: [07] CONNECT<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IE: [18] Channel identification<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IE: [34] Signal - Alerting on &#8211;
pattern 0<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>RX [08 02 32 11 7d 08 07 82 e3 34 00 00 00
00 14 01 07]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Message Type: [7d] STATUS<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IE: [08] Cause -- IE not implemented/Signal<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IE: [14] <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
 w:st="on">Call</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">State</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>
-- call received<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>RX [08 02 32 11 7d 08 07 82 e3 34 00 00 00
00 14 01 08]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Message Type: [7d] STATUS<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IE: [08] Cause -- IE not implemented/Signal<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IE: [14] <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
 w:st="on">Call</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">State</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>
-- connect request<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>RX [08 02 32 11 0f]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Message Type: [0f] CONNECT ACKNOWLEDGE<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>RX [08 02 32 11 45 08 02 82 90]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Message Type: [45] DISCONNECT<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IE: [08] Cause -- Normal call clearing<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>TX [08 02 b2 11 4d 34 01 40]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Message Type: [4d] RELEASE<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IE: [34] Signal - Alerting on &#8211;
pattern 0<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>RX [08 02 32 11 5a 08 07 82 e3 34 00 00 00
00]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Message Type: [5a] RELEASE COMPLETE<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IE: [08] Cause -- IE not implemented/Signal<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org
[mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Anthony Minessale<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 10, 2010 9:15 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Freeswitch-users]
short ringback tone when answer</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>if ringback is not set, it would never play a tone and even if it was,
it would not be played if you explicitly called answer.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Try reversing the answer and the sleep in your dialplan.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Tony Tin &lt;<a
href="mailto:tony.tin@noahmedia.com.hk">tony.tin@noahmedia.com.hk</a>&gt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hi Peter,<br>
<br>
Thanks for your reply.<br>
<br>
The other end is the Telco, I've confirmed with them that they don't play the
tone for us, also I got the Asterisk install in the same box, it doesn't play
the tone. The tone is played exactly when the answer function is executed, if I
put sleep 10 seconds before the answer, the tone will delay 10 seconds too, any
idea?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<font color="#888888"><span style='color:#888888'>Tony</span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:33 AM, Peter Olsson &lt;<a
href="mailto:peter.olsson@visionutveckling.se" target="_blank">peter.olsson@visionutveckling.se</a>&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The equipment connected in the other en of the T1 is probably playing
these tones for you, 500ms is probably the time it takes for the called to be
connected successfully.<br>
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/Peter<br>
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target="_blank">tony.tin@noahmedia.com.hk</a>]<br>
Skickat: den 9 maj 2010 15:16<br>
Till: <a href="mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>
Ämne: [Freeswitch-users] short ringback tone when answer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Hi All,<br>
<br>
I've just setup a new IVRS with FreeSwitch and a Digium TE220 card (which is
connected to a 4ess T1). Every thing works fine so far except one little
problem that annoys me. Every time I dial in the ivrs, there is a very short
(0.5 second) ringback tone exactly while the &quot;&lt;action
application=&quot;answer&quot;/&gt;&quot; line is executed in the dial plan. I
want to disable this ringback tone because the ivrs will answer the call
immediately, the ringback tone is really unnecessary in this case, but I fail
to do that. I try to set the variable &quot;ringback&quot; to change the
ringback tone, it's also not working. Could anyone please help.<br>
<br>
I'm using the native pri stack.<br>
The default.xml containts only below lines, and attached is the log file.<br>
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;extension name=&quot;testing&quot;&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;condition
field=&quot;destination_number&quot; expression=&quot;^(6.*)$&quot;&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;action
application=&quot;sleep&quot; data=&quot;3000&quot;/&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;action
application=&quot;answer&quot;/&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;action
application=&quot;sleep&quot; data=&quot;3000&quot;/&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;/condition&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/extension&gt;<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Tony<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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