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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>And I’m merely poking fun at the concept of competitors serious enough to pose a threat, yet dumb enough not to know how to use Google.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Honestly, if your competition is sitting there saying “oh well, I guess we gotta dish out half a mil for NexTone” and the only thing that changes their mind is “oh wow, we saw the SDP of Ken’s company and it says freeswitch – yey, we can save tons of money!” – well that’s some funny competitors and I can’t see them posing any threat regardless if you gave them all your secrets.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-Michael<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ken Fulmer<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Freeswitch-users] Replace "Freeswitch" in SDP<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sorry if I came across harshly toward the group. My response was meant for the following remark:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:#1F497D'>“</span>Wait, so your "competition" can't figure out to use FreeSWITCH, yet they are still competition? I mean, you got people sitting around going "hmm how can bet beat Ken, damn we can't- -- OH FREESWITCH NOW I GET IT!!!"?”<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I was merely trying to ask a question to see if it’s possible. I didn’t mean to cause a problem on this user list. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Ken<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Anthony Minessale<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 27, 2010 4:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Freeswitch-users] Replace "Freeswitch" in SDP<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ok so I guess that means you don't want to sponsor ClueCon......<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>What's wrong with it is that is your problem not ours.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Our problem is to write a full featured soft switch for free for everyone to use not just you.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Wanting to make FreeSWITCH the world's best kept secret is not on our roadmap so we don't rush out to teach everyone how to hide it but if you look hard enough you'll probably figure it out.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Ken Fulmer <<a href="mailto:kenfulmer@icstechnologysolutions.com">kenfulmer@icstechnologysolutions.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>We have competitors using vendor solutions that are expensive as hell. So,<br>we are trying to counter with a less expensive but powerful solution. What<br>exactly is wrong with that? And what is wrong with trying to extend the<br>barrier to entry for our competitors as long as possible? Not sure why<br>there's such a mystery here...<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org">freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>[mailto:<a href="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org">freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org</a>] On Behalf Of Michael<br>Giagnocavo<br>Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:39 PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org">freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Replace "Freeswitch" in SDP<br><br>Wait, so your "competition" can't figure out to use FreeSWITCH, yet they are<br>still competition? I mean, you got people sitting around going "hmm how can<br>bet beat Ken, damn we can't- -- OH FREESWITCH NOW I GET IT!!!"?<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org">freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>[mailto:<a href="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org">freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org</a>] On Behalf Of Ken<br>Fulmer<br>Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 12:48 PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org">freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Replace "Freeswitch" in SDP<br><br>Very true. We're just trying to stay one step ahead of the local<br>competition.<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org">freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>[mailto:<a href="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org">freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org</a>] On Behalf Of Kristian<br>Kielhofner<br>Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 12:37 PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org">freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Replace "Freeswitch" in SDP<br><br>While I understand the request:<br><br>1) They are going to find out anyway.<br>2) You are posting to FreeSWITCH-users using (presumably) your real name<br>and corporate e-mail address.<br><br>If you were looking to hide FreeSWITCH it's a little too late.<br><br>On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Ken Fulmer<br><<a href="mailto:kenfulmer@icstechnologysolutions.com">kenfulmer@icstechnologysolutions.com</a>> wrote:<br>> It's not meant to be offensive or anything. We'd just like to ensure<br>> the competition doesn't know what we're doing for as long as possible.<br>> That's all.<br>><br>><br>><br>> Ken<br><br>--<br>Kristian Kielhofner<br><a href="http://www.astlinux.org" target="_blank">http://www.astlinux.org</a><br><a href="http://blog.krisk.org" target="_blank">http://blog.krisk.org</a><br><a href="http://www.star2star.com" target="_blank">http://www.star2star.com</a><br><a href="http://www.submityoursip.com" target="_blank">http://www.submityoursip.com</a><br><a href="http://www.voalte.com" target="_blank">http://www.voalte.com</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>FreeSWITCH-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org">FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users</a><br>UNSUBSCRIBE:<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users</a><br><a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>FreeSWITCH-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org">FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users</a><br>UNSUBSCRIBE:<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users</a><br><a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>FreeSWITCH-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org">FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users</a><br>UNSUBSCRIBE:<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users</a><br><a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>FreeSWITCH-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org">FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users</a><br>UNSUBSCRIBE:<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users</a><br><a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><br>-- <br>Anthony Minessale II<br><br>FreeSWITCH <a href="http://www.freeswitch.org/">http://www.freeswitch.org/</a><br>ClueCon <a href="http://www.cluecon.com/">http://www.cluecon.com/</a><br>Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/FreeSWITCH_wire">http://twitter.com/FreeSWITCH_wire</a><br><br>AIM: anthm<br><a href="mailto:MSN%3Aanthony_minessale@hotmail.com">MSN:anthony_minessale@hotmail.com</a><br>GTALK/JABBER/<a href="mailto:PAYPAL%3Aanthony.minessale@gmail.com">PAYPAL:anthony.minessale@gmail.com</a><br>IRC: <a href="http://irc.freenode.net">irc.freenode.net</a> #freeswitch<br><br>FreeSWITCH Developer Conference<br><a href="mailto:sip%3A888@conference.freeswitch.org">sip:888@conference.freeswitch.org</a><br><a href="mailto:googletalk%3Aconf%2B888@conference.freeswitch.org">googletalk:conf+888@conference.freeswitch.org</a><br>pstn:+19193869900<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>