Based on your response, I could be wrong but, I get the impression you are intentionally trying to stir up some kind of controversy. Is there a specific reason you feel the need to raise your concerns on our general users mailing lists and not to <a href="mailto:consulting@freeswitch.org" target="_blank">consulting@freeswitch.org</a> where they belong. This has gone from asking some questions to some sort of rhetoric against our policy that clearly already addresses your concerns. <br>
<br>Do you really think you are going to have a whole bunch of boxes fail to some degree that we will not be willing to re-issue your licenses or are you just more interested in starting a flame war on our mailing list? The licenses are to the specifications of the requirements of the contracts we signed. We did so taking the on the risk and responsibility to make g729 available to the community. <br>
<br>We had a discussion about floating licenses and concluded it was unwise and not worth the risk and security implications. If you use g729 you know how much traffic you are going to use and if you want to remain stable you should not want to add another moving part to the equation that could go down and make all of your calls fail. <br>
<br>This is the policy we have implemented and I think you are getting the good end of the bargain with a free telephony server with an efficient stable g729 codec implementation at an affordable cost. If a high-enough demand arises for floating licenses and we have the time and resources to implement it, we may reconsider it but only a tiny fraction of our customers have even asked about it, let alone demanded it.<br>
<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:30 AM, Gabriel Kuri <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gkuri@ieee.org" target="_blank">gkuri@ieee.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Send proof the machine is dead? Would you like a picture of smoke pouring out of a box in flames? <br><br>What if you want to re-allocate the machine to do something else or just replace it with a more powerful machine? How are the licenses tied to the machine, MAC address? <br>
<br>Any reason the "option" for a floating license model isn't available? It seems given the option between the two, I'd rather have the floating license model so I wouldn't need to prove my machine is dead before asking to have the licenses re-issued, unless of course the license server is dead. We swap production machines in/out all the time, particularly because we perform maintenance on one, so we have a spare, bring it up, take the other one down, perform maintenance, and bring it back up.<br>
<br>With this model, floating licenses would be our only option, I really
wouldn't want to be purchasing a bunch of extra licenses for spare
machines.<br><br>I can't imagine you guys really like making us feel like criminals by tieing the license to an actual box, what's wrong with the good 'ole "on your honor policy"? I realize the need to pay for valid g729 licenses, but prove the machine is dead? Is this requirement coming from Sipro?<br>
<br>Cheers,<br>Gabe<div><div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Brian West <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brian@freeswitch.org" target="_blank">brian@freeswitch.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div style="word-wrap: break-word;">If you have to replace the machine you'll have to send me the proof the machine is dead and I can reset them... I can only do this 3 times before you have to repurchase the license.<div>
<br></div><div>/b</div><div><br><div><div><div></div><div><div>On Apr 22, 2010, at 1:24 PM, Ken Fulmer wrote:</div><br></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><span style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US">
<div><div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;"><span>1.<span> <span> </span></span></span>Are these licenses additive? In other words, if I’ve purchased one for a machine and need a total of five, can I purchase four more and add them to the mix?</div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;"><span>2.<span> <span> </span></span></span>If we have to replace a machine, how can we replace the licenses without repurchasing them?</div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;"> </div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;">Thanks,</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;">
</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;">Ken Fulmer</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;"> </div></div></div>
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