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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>David,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>thanks for the info - maybe I'm giving up too soon
!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I've not used WireShark before - I downloaded a
copy a while ago, but it looked a bit beyond me, it sounds like this might be
the driver for me to try to get to grips with it though.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As you suggest, On or Off - the Silence Suppression
did not actually seem to do anything noticeable but it is currently
off.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There does not seem to be much, if any, difference
when calling Thomson-Thomson or Thomson-Cisco, but there does seem to be a
marked difference between those combinations and when talking
Cisco-Cisco.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have not tried "bypass-media" - off to read up
about it now,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dave</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 26, 2010 4:08
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Freeswitch-users] Thomson
ST2030 IP Phones</DIV>
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<DIV>Dave,</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>We have quite a few ST2030
deployed, but they run MGCP and they are connected on a commercial IP-Centrex
platform.
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I am not going to say that's the best phone in the world, but we never
had the issues you're describing (and the SIP firmware is considered more
advanced than the MGCP one).</DIV>
<DIV>And we are using G729.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>So either the G711 code in the phone is crap (I have to admit I never
used it), or something is wrong somewhere.</DIV>
<DIV>I would recommend you disable silence suppression (that's crap anyway),
and then take a RTP capture of the call, before and after FS.</DIV>
<DIV>Then decode the RTP streams with wireshark, and listen to it.</DIV>
<DIV>The point is to check if the issue is in the RTP stream sent by the
phone, or if it appears after FS (unlikely), or if it is because of the way
the other phone decodes it.</DIV>
<DIV>Are you having the issue from Thomson to Thomson ?</DIV>
<DIV>What about if you enable bypass_media ?</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yehavi,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>thanks a lot for the reply - not the answer
that I wanted, but it does confirm my findings and tell me that there's no
point in spending more time & effort on these phones.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Before I went for the ST2030, I checked out the
FreeSWITCH Interop Wiki and saw that the ST2030 was reported as working
with FreeSWITCH, unfortunately, the Wiki does not give any information on
how good (or bad) the phones actually are. I also did some "Googling" and
the phone appeared to get good reports (from Asterisk users), so I thought I
was on safe ground. Obviously not though.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Oh well, I'll keep trying to find a decent VOIP
phone with full SpeakerPhone functionality that does not have the footprint
of the Cisco 794x.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dave</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B><SPAN
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ST2030 IP Phones</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>We have one ST2030 and one other model of them which we
bought for evaluation. We have the same problem as you describe, both with
Freeswitch and Asterisk. That's why we have only one unit and not
more...</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>from my experience, you get what you pay for.</DIV>
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__Yehavi:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>2010/3/25 Dave Stevenson<SPAN
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>is anyone using Thomson ST2030 phones with
FreeSwitch ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have a mixture of Cisco 7940 and the
ST2030s. The voice quality of the Cisco phones seems fine, but the
Thomson phones are pretty poor. I get quite a bit of noise (hiss) on the
line and some breakup of the voice. The phones are all on a private LAN
behind a router - all external calls are over the PSTN - no external
IP calls are made (I don't use a VOIP provider).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have loaded the latest Thomson SIP
firmware (2.69). There are a couple of options on the phone that I've
tried such as Silence Suppression, Acoustic Echo Cancellation and
Packet Loss Compensation with no improvement. Most of the other options
are beyond me I'm afraid, so I'd be really interested to hear from
anyone who has good (or even acceptable !) results from the ST2030 -
particularly if they could share their phone configuration</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>regards</FONT></DIV>
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