With sub-domains you'll need to start all over and it will be a pain to keep the documentation in-sync.<br><br>With a wiki that supports real translation it's easier to add a new line with the translation tag or whatever.<br>
<br>Diego<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Diego Viola <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:diego.viola@gmail.com">diego.viola@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Take a look at this for instance:<br><br><a href="http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/start" target="_blank">http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/start</a><br><br>This uses DokuWiki, check the langauges option at the top (en, de, el, es, fr, etc) and when you click one of them it translates the actual page to the desired language... I'd love to have something like that.<br>
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<br>Diego</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Diego Viola <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:diego.viola@gmail.com" target="_blank">diego.viola@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Instead of adding million of different domains for the languages, it would be nice if we only keep <a href="http://wiki.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">wiki.freeswitch.org</a>, and the wiki software provides a list of languages to choose from.<br>
<br>Then when we click in one of the languages we have the wiki translated to the desired language.<br><br>I believe if we go this way we will be more organized, and there is more chances that things will get translated, and we wont be repeating too much information here and there too.<br>
<br>Just a thought... I'm open to do this work to make it happen.<br><br>The different domains per language is a good idea too.<br><font color="#888888"><br>Diego</font><div><div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Diego Viola <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:diego.viola@gmail.com" target="_blank">diego.viola@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">We could also do this for a better documentation.<br><br><ol><li>Pick a new wiki engine that does internalization/translation easier.</li>
<li>Set some documentation guidelines from the start.</li><li>Move stuff over to the new wiki.</li>
<li>Start with the translation/internalization on the new wiki.</li></ol><br><font color="#888888">Diego</font><div><div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Diego Viola <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:diego.viola@gmail.com" target="_blank">diego.viola@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Some interesting pages on the subject.<br><br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_software" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_software</a><br>
<a href="http://www.osnews.com/story/21865/Recommend_an_Open_Source_Wiki_Platform" target="_blank">http://www.osnews.com/story/21865/Recommend_an_Open_Source_Wiki_Platform</a><div><div></div><div><br>
<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Diego Viola <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:diego.viola@gmail.com" target="_blank">diego.viola@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Would you be open to test another wiki software, that supports internalization/translation easier, if i am open to port the entire documentation to the new wiki software?<div><div></div><div><br><br><br><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Diego Viola <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:diego.viola@gmail.com" target="_blank">diego.viola@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">If we find a better wiki software that does internalization in a better way, I could help porting the documentation over to the new software.<br>
<br>The sub-domain idea is also very nice.<br><font color="#888888"><br>Diego</font><div><div></div><div><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Michael Jerris <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mike@jerris.com" target="_blank">mike@jerris.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I think we strongly lean towards using a sub-domain (if necessary) and<br>
maintaining other language content in the same wiki in alternate<br>
pages. If the wiki software we are using is not effective to create<br>
multiple languages we should find a way to do it all in one. We can<br>
set up an additional mailing list if necessary but also we have no<br>
issue with going across multiple languages in both the mailing list<br>
and in irc.<br>
<br>
Mike<br>
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On Oct 17, 2009, at 4:01 PM, Roberto Martins wrote:<br>
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> sub-domain seem to be a very wise choice...<br>
> ptbr<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Oct 17, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Anthony Minessale wrote:<br>
><br>
>> or someone could just ask us for <a href="http://pg.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">pg.freeswitch.org</a> or whatever other<br>
>> sub-domain to avoid trademark infringement of registering 40 domains<br>
>> with freeswitch in the name for no reason.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Rudį Cunha <<a href="mailto:ruda@ruda.com.br" target="_blank">ruda@ruda.com.br</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Joćo Mesquita,<br>
>><br>
>> Could check with Jeremiah or contact me through, so I talk to him<br>
>> about the forum?<br>
>><br>
>> He could redirect the domain to my hosting server and we can put<br>
>> there the wiki and forums and we can communicate!<br>
>><br>
>> Rudį Cunha<br>
>><br>
>> 2009/10/17 Joćo Mesquita <<a href="mailto:jmesquita@freeswitch.org" target="_blank">jmesquita@freeswitch.org</a>><br>
>><br>
>> Just a heads up, I have talked to Jeremias from Khomp today and he<br>
>> is setting up the wiki. I will personally be adding contents to the<br>
>> that wiki if it ever picks up.<br>
>><br>
>> Regards,<br>
>><br>
>> jm<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Jason White <<a href="mailto:jason@jasonjgw.net" target="_blank">jason@jasonjgw.net</a>><br>
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>> Diego Viola <<a href="mailto:diego.viola@gmail.com" target="_blank">diego.viola@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> I'm with Moises and with the other people supporting this<br>
>> initiative.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I'm not Brazilian, but they should be able to do whatever they<br>
>> want, after<br>
>>> all, that's how open source works, if you can do it go ahead and<br>
>> do it.<br>
>><br>
>> Correct. We have enough of them as far as English-language fora are<br>
>> concerned;<br>
>> other languages are a different question altogether, though.<br>
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