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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>As evidenced by various DTMF interop issues (with
RFC2833, inband, etc) over the years, I would avoid it if at all
possible. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>What does it particularly do
that can not accomplished by using RFC 2833 or (less
ideal) inband DTMF? Or are you attempting to use it as a band-aid to
address some sort of interop issue with the carrier involved that is
wrecking havoc with your particular application?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>-metik</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=tculjaga@gmail.com href="mailto:tculjaga@gmail.com">Tihomir
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 13, 2009 3:24
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Freeswitch-users] SIP
Overlap support?</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT><FONT
size=2 face=Arial></FONT><BR></DIV>i never found it working properly... i
always had some interoperability issues and i finished having a "dialplan" on
my phones being delivered through a config file via tftp or http .. depending
of the phone capability.<BR><BR>BTW: using overlap can lead to a greater
system load... be careful when setting the minimum number of digits you will
send in 1st message. I wish you luck...<BR><BR>T.<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Metik <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:freeswitch-users-list@metik.com">freeswitch-users-list@metik.com</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Both support it. In the Grandstream, I
believe it is called Early Dial (vs. SNOM's Overlap
Dialing). It can be problematic if you have a device
somewhere in the middle that doesn't support 484s.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>-metik</FONT></DIV></FONT>
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<A title=anthony.minessale@gmail.com
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<A title=freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org
href="mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org"
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Re: [Freeswitch-users] SIP Overlap support?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>i do think some softphone can do it but i forgot which one
it was either snom or grandstream<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Tihomir Culjaga
<SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:tculjaga@gmail.com"
target=_blank>tculjaga@gmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>you need a softswitch.... i'm afraid a SIP phone is
not designed for overlap...<BR><FONT color=#888888><BR>T.</FONT>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Dennis <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:odermann@googlemail.com"
target=_blank>odermann@googlemail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>how could we try? we played arround with a snom
phone (snom seems to<BR>support something in this direction, but are
not shure, how we can<BR>test it and how we can see if it is supported
or not.<BR><BR>any hint?<BR><BR><BR>2009/10/13 Anthony Minessale
<<A href="mailto:anthony.minessale@gmail.com"
target=_blank>anthony.minessale@gmail.com</A>>:<BR>
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<DIV>> have you tried it?<BR>> I *think* either we did support
it or we would with a small patch to sofia<BR>> lib that I cannot
recall if we ever got committed.<BR>><BR>><BR>> On Tue, Oct
13, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Dennis <<A
href="mailto:odermann@googlemail.com"
target=_blank>odermann@googlemail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> hi there,<BR>>><BR>>> i
would like to ask, if fs has support for something like "SIP
Overlap"?<BR>>><BR>>> instead of receiving the phonenumber
from our carrier in a block, we<BR>>> want to receive the
phonenumber digit-by-digit and we want to tell fs<BR>>> when the
number is complete. our carrier could send us the
phonenumber<BR>>> digit-by-digit, but what about the
fs-side?<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> thanks and kind
regards<BR>>> dennis<BR>>><BR>>>
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