<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div>If that's the case, does this also apply to VoIP gateway services?</div><div><br></div><div>If so, I'll consider phrasing this differently:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Voicepulse.xml">http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Voicepulse.xml</a></div><div>--begin--</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; "><h2 style="color: black; background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; font-weight: normal; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.6em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.17em; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(170, 170, 170); font-size: 19px; position: static; z-index: auto; "><span class="mw-headline">Voicepulse Warning</span></h2><div style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em; "><b>WARNING!!!</b> Recent changes (Sep 2008) in VoicePulse have limited connect03 to only IAX termination. Please remove any entries that you may have reflecting the gateway below from your dialplan as it will most likely answer the call and play a message saying something to the effect of "Your call could not be completed as dialed because we changed our production environment in an effort to demonstrate what bad engineering is all about. BAD is an acronymn for Broken As Designed. Please hang up and make changes on all your switches. Even though we shouldn't have answered the call and simply ignored it entirely so that another gateway could facilitate your call, we FELT it wise to seriously inconvenience you by answering the call immediately giving no other gateway a chance to place the call. Thanks for using our service and we look forward to abusing you again in the near future.</div><div style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em; "><b>UPDATE</b> - Problem getting worse, not better <b>3/30/2009</b>. I switched DID providers because of problems w/ Voicepulse, such as echo, dropped calls, and consistent registration problems hence calls don't get placed and inbound don't get routed to me. Incidentally, they will not port DID's, they'll tell you they will, but they don't.</div></span></div><div>--end--</div><div><br></div><div>Perhaps just saying, "stay away, far far away. Recommend this service only to people and/or organizations you don't like or are in direct competition with" would suffice eh?</div><div><br></div><div>Suggestions? Recommendations?</div><br><div>
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>Best Regards,</div><div>Karl J. Vesterling</div><div><a href="mailto:kjv@ken-ton.com">kjv@ken-ton.com</a></div><div>202-461-3231 x0</div></div></div></span></div></span>
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<br><div><div>On Oct 9, 2009, at 3:05 AM, Michael Collins wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Gabriel Gunderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gabe@gundy.org">gabe@gundy.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Michael Collins <<a href="mailto:msc@freeswitch.org">msc@freeswitch.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> Thanks for reporting back. Please let all the Asterisk users know that they<br>
> are welcome to join us in #freeswitch on <a href="http://irc.freenode.net/" target="_blank">irc.freenode.net</a> and that they will<br>
> not be abused like people do in other less friendly IRC channels.<br>
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</div>Funny you mention this. Many people report that the way the FS<br>
community refers to Asterisk in docs/wikis/irc/whatever makes the FS<br>
camp seem *less* welcoming to them. After all, they identify as<br>
Asterisk Users and take the criticism as being kinda harsh. Most of<br>
them acknowledge the shortcomings of Asterisk but are put off when<br>
someone else points them out. It's crazy, I know. The thing is, I<br>
remember thinking that too. After getting to know FS better, I didn't<br>
notice it as much. Nobody likes to hear their baby is ugly --even if<br>
they know it is.<br></blockquote><div><br>Interesting. I'd like to know what specifically turned them off. It could be node 117, but that was written by Anthony in response to dozens of questions about the subject. In any case, if the Asterisk guys look at the first edition of the Starfish/TFOT book they'll see glowing praise of Anthony Minessale and Brian West, so maybe they'll be willing to listen to those guys since they've got so much Asterisk knowledge. The other thing is that many people in the FreeSWITCH community are Asterisk refugees. They left Asterisk for FreeSWITCH because they had some sort of trouble with Asterisk. If that comes across in the docs then we'll have to see about cleaning that up.<br>
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At our session, and in general, I've noticed people are more<br>
interested in hearing about FS when you don't make direct comparisons<br>
to Asterisk. Besides, FS stands on it's own merit.<br></blockquote><div><br>Agreed. Direct comparisons can always be slanted in any direction. Besides, FreeSWITCH stacks up very well against a lot of modern (i.e. expensive) equipment put out by the big boys (Cisco, Avaya, NEC, ShoreTel, etc.). <br>
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Just what I've observed *and* my 2 additional cents.<br>
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Gabe<br></div></div></blockquote><div>Thanks,<br>MC<br><br></div></div>
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