Composing an ivr with a visual tool and rendering it into something serialized that can be understood by many<br>things is a good idea but every time someone makes a go at an open standard they don't present it with wide open<br>
and free tools to make and use it which always ends up ruining everything.<br><br>I can't find the free composer for vxml docs now... maybe they changed their mind.<br><br>I set out to make vxml for asterisk in 2004, at the time the only lib was openvxi and it was very hard to build.<br>
I got so sick of trying to build it that spidermonkey caught my eye "Hey, the xml is just turned into js code anyway!" <br>So i thought i'd cut out the middleman and I wrote res_js for asterisk.<br><br>They promptly wrote AEL and had no interest in the idea so it still sits in a tarball somewhere alone in the dark =D<br>
<br><br>I ported the same idea to FS when the time came and thus mod_spidermonkey.<br><br>I'm not sure i like how CCML uses XML like a language but i have not dove into it too deeply.<br>but <if> tags? That scares me.<br>
<br>I'm glad at least there is a discussion on this, maybe it would make a good cluecon talk this year.<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Steve Underwood <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:steveu@coppice.org">steveu@coppice.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">mszlazak wrote:<br>
> If you don't like vxml then here is a post on voicePHP<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.speechtechblog.com/2009/04/22/voicexml-to-go-down-in-the-third-says-voicephp" target="_blank">http://www.speechtechblog.com/2009/04/22/voicexml-to-go-down-in-the-third-says-voicephp</a><br>
><br>
> It's from a vendor but there might be some good ideas to get from what they<br>
> are doing.<br>
><br>
> FreeSWITCH needs demand to get vxml and it's not there yet. For now, it<br>
> looks like the FS community is waiting for demand instead of trying to<br>
> create it.<br>
><br>
</div>Its interesting how the VoiceXML pushers have been able to create the<br>
air in some circles that VoiceXML is the norm for IVR creation. Its<br>
actually pretty hard to find people who have ever used it.<br>
<br>
I think voiceXML has one big thing going for it - nothing else for IVR<br>
building has been standardised. Apart from that its really clunky. Only<br>
the most trivial examples look even moderately clean and readable.<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
Steve<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Freeswitch-users mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org">Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users</a><br>
UNSUBSCRIBE:<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users</a><br>
<a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Anthony Minessale II<br><br>FreeSWITCH <a href="http://www.freeswitch.org/">http://www.freeswitch.org/</a><br>ClueCon <a href="http://www.cluecon.com/">http://www.cluecon.com/</a><br>
<br>AIM: anthm<br><a href="mailto:MSN%3Aanthony_minessale@hotmail.com">MSN:anthony_minessale@hotmail.com</a><br>GTALK/JABBER/<a href="mailto:PAYPAL%3Aanthony.minessale@gmail.com">PAYPAL:anthony.minessale@gmail.com</a><br>
IRC: <a href="http://irc.freenode.net">irc.freenode.net</a> #freeswitch<br><br>FreeSWITCH Developer Conference<br><a href="mailto:sip%3A888@conference.freeswitch.org">sip:888@conference.freeswitch.org</a><br><a href="http://iax:guest@conference.freeswitch.org/888">iax:guest@conference.freeswitch.org/888</a><br>
<a href="mailto:googletalk%3Aconf%2B888@conference.freeswitch.org">googletalk:conf+888@conference.freeswitch.org</a><br>pstn:213-799-1400<br>