<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">VXML is not only interesting but required concept.<br>I'm not talking about VXML itself, but presence of specification. I still remember my confusion, when initially thinking about media and call control dialogs and interfaces I found out XML based languages such as VXML and CCXML.<br>Nevertheless VXML clearly defines media dialogs: entities, state machines and transitions, which is just good.<br>More over VXML 3.0 is under the way<br><span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.w3.org/TR/vxml30reqs/">http://www.w3.org/TR/vxml30reqs/</a></span><br>If you check the authors list, it will be clear this is going to be another standart we should live with.<br>3.0 is rework of
 2.1 version, added native support of audio/video dialogs, speaker identification/verification.<br><br>FreeSWITCH as a platform is almost ready for that, what it is still missing is VXML interpreter itself.<br><br>Regards,<br>Arsen.<br><span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.unimrcp.org">www.unimrcp.org</a></span><br><br>Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:41:50 +0200<br>From: "Remko Kloosterman" &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:R.Kloosterman@mtel.nl" href="mailto:R.Kloosterman@mtel.nl">R.Kloosterman@mtel.nl</a>&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] VoiceXML<br>To: &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org" href="mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org">freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a>&gt;<br>Message-ID:<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:11372C8B9E603F4FACDE6AB18256DEC60170F957@srvmtel.office.mtel.nl"
 href="mailto:11372C8B9E603F4FACDE6AB18256DEC60170F957@srvmtel.office.mtel.nl">11372C8B9E603F4FACDE6AB18256DEC60170F957@srvmtel.office.mtel.nl</a>&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>I agree that the original commercial model used for VXML gets in the way<br>of it's own success. It's also focussed way too much on ASR/TTS. I think<br>we can all agree this technology is still a future promise, even after<br>10+ years. But technically VXML is an interesting concept, especially<br>together with related standards like ccxml<br><span>(<a target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_Control_eXtensible_Markup_Language">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_Control_eXtensible_Markup_Language</a>).</span><br>The latter supports call transfer and conferencing. Every VoIP and TDM<br>product I've worked with in the past has it's own application interface<br>or is bound to an interface that's tailored for a special use (like<br>pbx). I've
 also used voxeo's callxml, that's implemented with the<br>CosmoCom ACD product. It's implementation is crappy, but the concept is<br>nice. The idea of separating callcontrol+media (voice/swithing core) and<br>application+ivr logic (vxml webserver cgi scripts) sounds rather<br>appealing to me.<br> <br>Do you known the name of the free VXML editor/client that's out there?<br> <br><br>________________________________<br><br>Van: <a ymailto="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org" href="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org">freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>[mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org" href="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org">freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org</a>] Namens Anthony<br>Minessale<br>Verzonden: woensdag 22 april 2009 3:58<br>Aan: <a ymailto="mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org"
 href="mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org">freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>Onderwerp: Re: [Freeswitch-users] VoiceXML<br><br><br>I was initially turned off by VXML when it came out because the first<br>way they tried to make money off it was to <br>sell the clients that let you build the actual xml.&nbsp; I was not really<br>motivated to pay money to be able to <br>just generate xml just so i could code a free server for it so I lost<br>interest.<br><br>I did hear there is now finally a free one out there. so that may make<br>it a little more reasonable.<br><br>I've commented in the past that I'm totally open to supporting VXML but<br>we have never had the public interest, time or resources<br>to work on it thus far.<br><br><br><br><br>On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 6:15 PM, David Knell &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:dave@3c.co.uk" href="mailto:dave@3c.co.uk">dave@3c.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 14:35
 -0400, <a ymailto="mailto:mszlazak@aol.com" href="mailto:mszlazak@aol.com">mszlazak@aol.com</a> wrote:<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; Great Idea.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; Try setting up the exact same dialogue with say Voxeo's<br>VoiceXML<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; system and then with Javascript/Lua and pocketsphinx. It's an<br>order of<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; magnitude faster with VoiceXML.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Out of interest, is that using some RAD tool or coding directly<br>in<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; VoiceXML?&nbsp; I ask because VoiceXML strikes me as being a bastard<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; abomination of the highest order, whose sole saving grace is<br>that<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; it's a standardised bastard abomination.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Or is Pocketsphinx the problem?<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Cheers --<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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