<div> <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I've used vxml on Voxeo's system and it's really nice to work with. "Underneath" it's tags is Javascript so a FreeSWITCH with a fast TraceMonkey engine and vxml would be great. Your MRCP project would help connect things to other ASR/TTS systems if pocketsphinx isn't good enough. Nice package.</font><br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Arsen Chaloyan <achaloyan@yahoo.com><br>
To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org<br>
Sent: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 3:15 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] VoiceXML<br>
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<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">VXML is not only interesting but required concept.<br>
I'm not talking about VXML itself, but presence of specification. I still remember my confusion, when initially thinking about media and call control dialogs and interfaces I found out XML based languages such as VXML and CCXML.<br>
Nevertheless VXML clearly defines media dialogs: entities, state machines and transitions, which is just good.<br>
More over VXML 3.0 is under the way<br>
<span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.w3.org/TR/vxml30reqs/">http://www.w3.org/TR/vxml30reqs/</a></span><br>
If you check the authors list, it will be clear this is going to be another standart we should live with.<br>
3.0 is rework of
2.1 version, added native support of audio/video dialogs, speaker identification/verification.<br>
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FreeSWITCH as a platform is almost ready for that, what it is still missing is VXML interpreter itself.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Arsen.<br>
<span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.unimrcp.org">www.unimrcp.org</a></span><br>
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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:41:50 +0200<br>
From: "Remko Kloosterman" <<a href="mailto:R.Kloosterman@mtel.nl">R.Kloosterman@mtel.nl</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] VoiceXML<br>
To: <<a href="mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org">freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a>><br>
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<<a href="mailto:11372C8B9E603F4FACDE6AB18256DEC60170F957@srvmtel.office.mtel.nl">11372C8B9E603F4FACDE6AB18256DEC60170F957@srvmtel.office.mtel.nl</a>><br>
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I agree that the original commercial model used for VXML gets in the way<br>
of it's own success. It's also focussed way too much on ASR/TTS. I think<br>
we can all agree this technology is still a future promise, even after<br>
10+ years. But technically VXML is an interesting concept, especially<br>
together with related standards like ccxml<br>
<span>(<a target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_Control_eXtensible_Markup_Language">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_Control_eXtensible_Markup_Language</a>).</span><br>
The latter supports call transfer and conferencing. Every VoIP and TDM<br>
product I've worked with in the past has it's own application interface<br>
or is bound to an interface that's tailored for a special use (like<br>
pbx). I've
also used voxeo's callxml, that's implemented with the<br>
CosmoCom ACD product. It's implementation is crappy, but the concept is<br>
nice. The idea of separating callcontrol+media (voice/swithing core) and<br>
application+ivr logic (vxml webserver cgi scripts) sounds rather<br>
appealing to me.<br>
<br>
Do you known the name of the free VXML editor/client that's out there?<br>
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org">freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org</a>] Namens Anthony<br>
Minessale<br>
Verzonden: woensdag 22 april 2009 3:58<br>
Aan: <a href="mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org">freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>
Onderwerp: Re: [Freeswitch-users] VoiceXML<br>
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I was initially turned off by VXML when it came out because the first<br>
way they tried to make money off it was to <br>
sell the clients that let you build the actual xml. I was not really<br>
motivated to pay money to be able to <br>
just generate xml just so i could code a free server for it so I lost<br>
interest.<br>
<br>
I did hear there is now finally a free one out there. so that may make<br>
it a little more reasonable.<br>
<br>
I've commented in the past that I'm totally open to supporting VXML but<br>
we have never had the public interest, time or resources<br>
to work on it thus far.<br>
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On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 6:15 PM, David Knell <<a href="mailto:dave@3c.co.uk">dave@3c.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 14:35
-0400, <a href="mailto:mszlazak@aol.com">mszlazak@aol.com</a> wrote:<br>
> Great Idea.<br>
> Try setting up the exact same dialogue with say Voxeo's<br>
VoiceXML<br>
> system and then with Javascript/Lua and pocketsphinx. It's an<br>
order of<br>
> magnitude faster with VoiceXML.<br>
<br>
<br>
Out of interest, is that using some RAD tool or coding directly<br>
in<br>
VoiceXML? I ask because VoiceXML strikes me as being a bastard<br>
abomination of the highest order, whose sole saving grace is<br>
that<br>
it's a standardised bastard abomination.<br>
<br>
Or is Pocketsphinx the problem?<br>
<br>
Cheers --<br>
<br>
Dave<br>
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