<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Ben;</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13px; ">Can you imagine me injecting a question about a SIP profile into that conversation??</span></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>Don't be bashful, just jump right in:</div><div><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13px; ">If I'm going into #freeswitch at 11pm at night, it's probably because I really need some help with some problem I've run into after hours. Can you imagine me injecting a question about a SIP profile into that conversation??</span></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 13px; ">[23:11] <{tasker}> blonde / blue eyes are overrated<br>[23:11] <{tasker}> give me a latina any day<br>[23:11] <hmmhesays> best thing around here though</span></blockquote></div><div>[23:12] <Bashful_Ben> Excuse me, I hate to interrupt, but I have a FreeSwitch question regarding (foo), can anyone help me with that?</div><div><br></div><div>Point being that you're certainly not going to get any assistance if you neglect to ask for it.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm not sure I speak for all of us, but we volunteer our time in the IRC channel, and on the Wiki. Since we're not paid to give our advice and/or professional opinions, we're going to "goof off" when there's no one there asking for help. We're also going to goof off when there's people in there that need help, but are too bashful or afraid to ask for it. It's human nature, and it will happen. It even happens in the work place. Should you doubt me, just watch around the water cooler at work. Guaranteed you'll see a couple folks engaged in conversation that is non-work-related.</div><div><br></div><div>You'd probably have gotten your answer a lot sooner by asking for it in IRC as outlined above, rather that too whine about the conversations of the people that <b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;">volunteer</span></b> their time to help you.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; ">Summary:</span></span></div><div>If you need help, ask.</div><div>If you don't ask, then the only outcome of that lack of action is what?</div><div><br></div><div>I could say more, a lot more, but I think I've made my point.</div><div><br></div><div>Best Regards,</div><div apple-content-edited="true"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>Karl J. Vesterling</div><div><a href="mailto:kjv@ken-ton.com">kjv@ken-ton.com</a></div><div>202-448-3009 x0</div></div></div></span> </div><br><div><div>On Mar 5, 2009, at 12:03 PM, Ben Holtsclaw wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="MARGIN: 4px 4px 1px; FONT: 10pt Tahoma"> <div>I agree with Harry. I do not like the mailing list. Those that do like the mailing list always advocate Nabble. For those that advocate that solution, do you even realize that you can't post on Nabble unless you <em>are</em> subscribed to the mailing list? I am also not a fan of IRC. Before I came upon FreeSWITCH, I hadn't used IRC in years! I think I uninstalled my IRC client at the same time I uninstalled my NNTP reader. Most of the time, I actually find it difficult to obtain support in the #freeswitch channel. Once you ask the question, if somebody doesn't happen to be there that knows the answer, then you're screwed. How many times have I asked a question only to wait 30 seconds and then see, "anthm has joined #freeswitch." Crap...do I ask the question again? I <em>have</em> found the conversation in #openzap to be much more focused. Thank goodness I'm using that module! In that channel, I never see conversations about cd burners, somebody's girlfriend in South America, or off color jokes about someone's sexual proclivity. And because I know I'll get flamed for saying that, just look at this:</div> <div> </div> <div><font face="Courier New">[23:10] <{tasker}> me, too, but i'm a different animal<br>[23:10] <{tasker}> in NY and in Miami i went nutz<br>[23:10] <diegoviola> lol<br>[23:10] * jefferai is now known as lollerai<br>[23:10] <diegoviola> yeah i love her<br>[23:10] <{tasker}> latinas everywhere<br>[23:11] * lanwifie (</font><a href="mailto:n=Sami@99-196-39-200.cust.wildblue.net"><font face="Courier New">n=Sami@99-196-39-200.cust.wildblue.net</font></a><font face="Courier New">) has left #freeswitch<br>[23:11] * jjg (</font><a href="mailto:n=jjg@76.21.4.40"><font face="Courier New">n=jjg@76.21.4.40</font></a><font face="Courier New">) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))<br>[23:11] <hmmhesays> here its blond blue eyed girls<br>[23:11] * lollerai is now known as lolferai<br>[23:11] <rpm> brazilians... hopefully she's hot. i've seen some pretty dodgy looking chicks from there<br>[23:11] <{tasker}> diego: go back, buy her a ticket and tell her, "yeaaaaaaaaah, it's just for a few days"<br>[23:11] * martyn-dev (</font><a href="mailto:n=martyn-d@190.26.4.61"><font face="Courier New">n=martyn-d@190.26.4.61</font></a><font face="Courier New">) has joined #freeswitch<br>[23:11] <{tasker}> blonde / blue eyes are overrated<br>[23:11] <{tasker}> give me a latina any day<br>[23:11] <hmmhesays> best thing around here though</font></div> <div><br>If I'm going into #freeswitch at 11pm at night, it's probably because I really need some help with some problem I've run into after hours. Can you imagine me injecting a question about a SIP profile into that conversation??</div> <div> </div> <div>ALL that aside... I'm willing to use a carrier pigeon if that's the way the three primary developers wish to communicate. They have been instrumental in getting my project where it is today. You know the saying... beggars can't be choosers.</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div> <div><font face="Verdana" size="2">Ben Holtsclaw</font></div> <div><font face="Verdana" size="2">Network Engineer<br>Avery County Schools<br>Ph: 828.733.3567 x2301</font><br></div></div> <div><br>>>> On 3/5/2009 at 5:14 AM, "J Mann/Harry" <<a href="mailto:gibbedhead@gmail.com">gibbedhead@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div> <div style="PADDING-LEFT: 7px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 15px; BORDER-LEFT: #050505 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f3f3f3">No, I've yet to contribute anything, I barely have my system doing<br>what I want. But I REALLY love Freeswitch and I want to see it BURY<br>Asterisk. (Windows server user here)<br><br>I've been struggling with the XML configs, trying to figure out what<br>does what and where! That's fine, I'm used to it. What I'm NOT used to<br>is the total lack of a forum-based community to join and participate<br>in! Where can users SHARE their configs, help each other, learn from<br>each others mistakes? No DEV forum? I'm speechless.<br><br>Let's be serious guys, mailing lists went out in the 90s! IRC is "meh"<br>at best! I want stickies, a forum for noobs, converts, a dev forum...<br>So on...<br><br>"WELCOME To FreeSWITCH!"<br><br>Am I asking too much here? A FORUM?<br><br>I can't see how you can spark interest when we're so sorely lacking<br>the most basic and widely used community environments on the net!<br><br>HELP SOMEBODY? Install SMF ASAP!<br><a href="http://www.simplemachines.org">http://www.simplemachines.org</a><br><br>BTW: I hate people who voice problems without offering viable<br>solutions in the process... Disgusting! So if someone can offer up a<br>simple hosting account, Control Panel 10, Windows Linux whatever...<br>I'll be more than happy to have SMF setup and receiving user<br>registrations within 24 hours! I've done it dozens of times before. I<br>will then gladly turn over the keys to the kingdom to the "powers that<br>be" and take a backseat, being simply a happy user from that point on!<br><br>Please folks, please. I'm dying over here and I'm sure I'm not alone!<br>I'm searching Google and finding nothing!! 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