They contacted us shortly thereafter and asked if we want to have them sell you the license for 50 bucks.<br>hmm, i wonder why i deleted the module.....<br><br>I will tell them that if they give you a developer license you will work on getting it back into trunk.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Andrew Gilbert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gilbertandrew@me.com">gilbertandrew@me.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style="">Ok<br><div><br></div><div>I have a ping in with Lumenvox about dev licensing, and pulled the mod. Not sure where this will go, but will take a peek at things. Balancing the effort against something like getting unimcrp going and/or openmrcp tested and stable.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>Andy</div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Dec 2, 2008, at 11:43 AM, Anthony Minessale wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">from build root:<br>
<br>svn co -r8809 <a href="http://svn.freeswitch.org/svn/freeswitch/trunk/src/mod/asr_tts/mod_lumenvox" target="_blank">http://svn.freeswitch.org/svn/freeswitch/trunk/src/mod/asr_tts/mod_lumenvox</a> src/mod/asr_tts/mod_lumenvox<br>
<br><br>They did seem to express an interest in granting some dev licenses when they realized we took the code out of tree but I have not actually dealt with the issue yet because I have been overwhelmed.<br><br>I don't know if this code works anymore with the latest revision of the api but there it is.<br>
<br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Gilbert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gilbertandrew@me.com" target="_blank">gilbertandrew@me.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div>Mark and David,</div><div><br></div><div>I am willing to help some with testing here as well, if you need it. Ping me directly or we can get on the IRC. I am on Mac OS, but have readily available vm's with Debian, etc. I also have Prophecy.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I have a general interest in an ASR solution as well. Voxeo is great, but using it as an MRCP proxy seems odd. As a full fledged VXML solution it is great, if you can afford it. But having a good ASR solution is good first step to trying to get something like OpenVXI working as well.</div>
<div><br></div><div>That said, seems like a bounty or money to help FS is a better spend anyway. It is a one time cost, not a variable cost. And it goes straight to the guys doing the real work.</div><div><br></div><div>
I built unimrcp last night, it was quite straight forward. In theory, if I weren't old and my C/autoconf skills rather atrophied, it wouldn't seem like it would be that huge a deal to port/fix openmrcp to unimrcp.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Finally, Anthony I was looking at the Lumenvox path as well, but got deterred by the licensing hassle. This seems to be a universal ASR issue. I would reason I can find the old module in SVN? Were they going to grant "community dev" licenses? Again - I am willing to volunteer to do some testing/doc at least.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Andy</div><div><div></div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Dec 2, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Anthony Minessale wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">If you can get it to break on linux I will ssh in and fix it for you.<br>
If you cannot, i can try to fix it for you over rdp but that won't be very fun.<br><br>We can think about reinstating mod_lumenvox as well as another windows based asr<br> alternative. I deleted it for the same reason we will probably delete mod_openmrcp because<br>
nobody was using it and there was no way to support it because our dev licenses had expired. <br><br>Lumenvox has offered us some new dev licenses to bring it back but I would need someone to actually want it to work to put in charge of it.<br>
<br>We will be clear about what is supported and what is not in the 1.0.2 release scheduled<br>to be released in the near future.<br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:11 AM, David Knell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dave@3c.co.uk" target="_blank">dave@3c.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hi Anthony,<div><br> <blockquote type="cite">mod_openmrcp was a contribution to the community by a 3rd party individual.<br>
<br> As i have clearly stated in 2 previous emails, the man has decided to discontinue the openmrcp project.<br> So now we are left with the remains of the module and discontinued code. This was not our decision it was his.</blockquote>
</div> I absolutely understand this but it's important, from a user point of view, to be able to know which bits of FS are current/supported and which aren't.<div><br> <blockquote type="cite"> Some people use it without issue which may mean that the crash you reported is windows specific and I do not have a working lab of any mrcp capbable system to try it against in unix for that matter. I have a list of work to do from here to the moon and back so on an issue like this, unless someone can hand me login credentials to some box and give me a phone number to dial to reporduce the issue, it will be a long time until we can deal with it. </blockquote>
</div> It's useful to know that there are people using mod_openmrcp without issue: I did ask here if anyone was a while back, and no-one fessed up. I'll give it a go on a Linux box and report back. And if you'd like a dev/test environment set up, then just tell me which one.<div>
<br> <blockquote type="cite">And the question arises, should we bother working on it anymore if the lib has been abandoned and we cannot even get any support from it's author which is where the problem most likely lies.<br>
<br> I try not to get too annoyed by these remarks about what we *ought to do* because I know people lose sight of how much of the work to support the project is done by a small group of 3 people and not the 2000 people it appears to be from the outside looking in. (I've been answering email for 4 hours now)</blockquote>
</div> Those guys who claim to have all that money in an offshore bank account are lying - you don't have to reply to them in future ;-) Seriously, though, I don't think it's too outrageous an idea to document what's supported and were you (for example) to have suggested that I get in touch with the contributors to the various modules, ask them what their view of its status is, condense the answers in to a list and report back, it's something I'd quite happily do.<div>
<br> <blockquote type="cite"> My suggestion is to pool some cash and pay the guy to make mod_unimrcp for FS that we can maintain in tree knowing the development can be supported by the original author.<br> </blockquote></div>
Quite happy to participate in that, too.. the problem is that I've a demo to do like yesterday and the timescale for mod_unimrcp is a bit on the long side for that. I'd rather not have to do it with Asterisk and Lumenvox..!<br>
<br> Cheers --<br> <br> Dave<div><div></div><div><br> <blockquote type="cite"><br> <br> <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:51 PM, David Knell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dave@3c.co.uk" target="_blank">dave@3c.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hi Mike,<br> <br> My experience is that it's somewhat broken - it took two trivial tweaks to get it to work with IBM's ASR and TTS, but there's a more intractable problem to do with memory getting overwritten (I assume that this is something to do with something being freed when it shouldn't be) which causes a segfault on the second or third session after the module being loaded.<br>
<br> Without wishing to sound like a stuck record, one thing that you guys really ought to do is to decide what's supported and what isn't, and make this obvious - for example, move unsupported modules to a different place in the tree, don't have them built by default, etc. MRCP is in the specsheet on the Wiki. Otherwise folk like Mark and I spend time installing stuff, go round in circles a bit trying to make it work, and then find out (a) that it doesn't and (b) it's not going to be fixed because it's not supported.<br>
<br> Cheers --<br> <br> Dave<br> <blockquote type="cite"> <div> <div>I would not say it is totally broken, it is known to work in quite a few places, but we are unlikely to be doing any new fixes in it. <div>
<br> </div> <div>Mike</div> <div><br> <div> <div>On Dec 1, 2008, at 1:19 PM, <a href="mailto:mszlazak@aol.com" target="_blank">mszlazak@aol.com</a> wrote:</div> <br> <blockquote type="cite">
<div> <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hi Anthony,<br> <br> Oh! OK.<br> <br> So is this module "totally broken". <br> <br> I say this because I can't seem to get it to work at all with the example in that Mod_openmrcp wiki page but I thought it might because I'm not be using the right Cepstral software (freetrial download versus the paided for SDK) or that I'm not using the right port numbers or something else I didn't do. I used TcpView to look at local port associated with my Cepstral software and changed a few things but still nothing. I changed the loglevel setting to 7 in the wiki's example but I don't see the kind of output on the console that I would expect for debug mode.<br>
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