I agree with Santiago, we the spanish talkers should help with that task.<br>Bkw i think you can propose that in the next Conference.<br><br>Luis Jimenez<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Santiago Gimenez Ocano <<a href="mailto:sxntixgo@hotmail.com">sxntixgo@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>I think the best idea for support in other languages is to translate wiki. I mean, this is the firt point were you look for help<br>
<br>
Rgards,<br>
Santiago<br><br>
<hr>
<br>
> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:27:30 -0300<br>> From: <a href="mailto:egghunt@gmail.com" target="_blank">egghunt@gmail.com</a><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>> To: <a href="mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] FreeSWITCH in latin america countries<br>> <br>> On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Santiago Gimenez Ocano<br>> <<a href="mailto:sxntixgo@hotmail.com" target="_blank">sxntixgo@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > I'm native speaker and I know that my english isn't quite good. As far I can<br>> > see there are two issues here:<br>> ><br>> > 1. Having people that can support in spanish<br>> ><br>
> > 2. Splitting the community<br>> ><br>> > Even thogh there is the slang problem, I think that the support given by<br>> > Brian, Anth, Mike, Norm, etc is excellent and I don't know if anyone how<br>
> > speaks spanish can do as same as they do.<br>> <br>> No, their support is the best we could get, none spanish nor<br>> portuguese speaker could achieve that now. At least none known.<br>> <br>> ><br>
> > Also, I think is better for the project to have one direction and having<br>> > only one support chat is important to achive this.<br>> ><br>> > On top of this, what would happend if somebody else wants to have a chat<br>
> > room in his/her own language?<br>> ><br>> > It's possible to have people supporting in other languages in #freeswitch?<br>> <br>> I think we can go more objective in this thread: do you guys think<br>
> it's a better idea to drop the spanish/portuguese channel and think<br>> about it when it's actually needed ? The feedback about the idea of<br>> having #freeswitch-la was bad... and I, of course, don't want to split<br>
> anything here. :)<br>> <br>> ><br>> > Regards,<br>> > Santiago<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > ________________________________<br>> >> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:47:01 -0500<br>> >> From: <a href="mailto:jlists@skopis.com" target="_blank">jlists@skopis.com</a><br>
> >> To: <a href="mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>> >> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] FreeSWITCH in latin america countries<br>
> >><br>> >> J. Javier Maestro wrote:<br>> >> > On Jun Sun 08 2008 12:11, John Skopis (Lists) wrote:<br>> >> >> example:<br>> >> >> skopii: que estas me hombres<br>
> >> >> bot: [skopii] where are my homies<br>> >> >> bkw: skopii: right here<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> then the bot would translate bkw's response and pm it to me<br>
> >> ><br>> >> > Wow!! Stop right there please! :)<br>> >> ><br>> >> > Where are my homies? --> Dónde están mis colegas/amigos? (España)<br>> >> ><br>> >> > And because slang words are frequently used in IRC, things like 'homies'<br>
> >> > is<br>> >> > most surely translated in a completely different way in every<br>> >> > spanish-speaking country within latin america... so I really can't see<br>> >> > the<br>
> >> > point on automatic translation. It's horrible! There is not enough A.I.<br>> >> > in<br>> >> > the software to do it correctly, so it is very doomed right from the<br>> >> > begining.<br>
> >><br>> >> Clearly my spanish is horrible. What is easier to understand though:<br>> >><br>> >> que esta me hombres<br>> >> or<br>> >> dónde está mi homies<br>> >><br>
> >> and that is a simple sentence. Things only get more interesting with<br>> >> more complex constructs.<br>> >><br>> >> ><br>> >> > It is a nice idea, but an impossible one :-/<br>
> >> ><br>> >> > My 2 cents!<br>> >> ><br>> >><br>> >> My point was to make a "best effort". We all know it wouldn't be<br>> >> perfect. It's certainly not impossible.<br>
> >><br>> >> If everyone is in the same channel, everyone benefits from the<br>> >> discussion. In addition it would help non-english speakers learn english<br>> >> and english speakers pick up some other languages (bits and pieces at<br>
> >> least).<br>> >><br>> >> Also, what happens when there is no one that knows the answer in the<br>> >> non-english channel? The non-english speaker comes into the main channel<br>> >> (out of his/her comfort zone) and has a difficult time because no one<br>
> >> understands him/her. It's hard enough for some people just to ask a<br>> >> question, let alone in a different language. That is why I think we<br>> >> should make a best effort to make it easier for everyone.<br>
> >><br>> >> Often times a translated block of text is easier to understand than a<br>> >> non-native english speaker attempting english. Granted, my perspective<br>> >> is one sided as I do not know if that is true for other languages (I<br>
> >> only speak english).<br>> >><br>> >> Anyway, I am wasting my breath at this point. Everyone (not just us<br>> >> americans) will do as they please anyway. ;]<br>> >><br>> >><br>
> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >> Freeswitch-users mailing list<br>> >> <a href="mailto:Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>
> >> <a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users</a><br>> >> UNSUBSCRIBE:<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users</a><br>
> >> <a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > ________________________________<br>> > Blog your life in 3D with Windows Live Writer. Get Windows Live-Free<br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Freeswitch-users mailing list<br>> > <a href="mailto:Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>
> > <a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users</a><br>> > UNSUBSCRIBE:<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users</a><br>
> > <a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>> ><br>> ><br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -- <br>> Arnaldo M Pereira<br>> <a href="mailto:ap@arnaldopereira.com" target="_blank">ap@arnaldopereira.com</a><br>
> <a href="http://www.arnaldopereira.com" target="_blank">http://www.arnaldopereira.com</a><br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Freeswitch-users mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>
> <a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users</a><br>> UNSUBSCRIBE:<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users</a><br>
> <a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br><br><br></div></div><hr>Stop squinting -- view your photos on your TV. <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows/digitallife/default.mspx?deepLink=photos" target="_blank">Learn more</a></div>
<br>_______________________________________________<br>
Freeswitch-users mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org">Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users</a><br>
UNSUBSCRIBE:<a href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users" target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users</a><br>
<a href="http://www.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br>